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I lived on the border between Lewisham and Catford in SE13. The place had "character" is probably the best way of putting it.

Having said that, it had superb public transport, and the lovely Blackheath was just up the road.

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Originally posted by Palynka
What's wrong with Oval/Kennington?

The thing is I don't know squat about each area. Which zones do you think are relatively less safe?
Nothing as such. People have misconceptions about South of the River, because of the scarcity of tube lines, so it's generally a little cheaper. As I said earlier though, there are loads of train links, most of which will drop you off to Charing Cross, which is right where you want to go.

Its very hard to identify "unsafe zones". There are a few places which are mostly upperclass like Mayfair and Knightsbridge, but even a place like the King's Road in Chelsea which is distinctly upperclass has the World's End estate just off it.

I lived in Lewisham which is distinctly dodgy, but I never had any bother there. Even places with bad reps like Peckham are getting a lot of money pumped into them.

You'll really have to go to London to have a look at the different areas. If you have a budget that you're willing to pay then you can narrow down your search to those areas that fit your criteria.

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Little too close to the Den for my liking.

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Originally posted by Ragnorak
Nothing as such. People have misconceptions about South of the River, because of the scarcity of tube lines, so it's generally a little cheaper. As I said earlier though, there are loads of train links, most of which will drop you off to Charing Cross, which is right where you want to go.

Its very hard to identify "unsafe zones". There are a few place ...[text shortened]... g to pay then you can narrow down your search to those areas that fit your criteria.

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True.

Don't get me wrong, I don't mind living in relatively dodgy places, it's just that London has quite a bad reputation with respect to crime. I don't need (nor want) to be in "upper class" places, I just don't want to get mugged three times a week.

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Originally posted by Palynka
True.

Don't get me wrong, I don't mind living in relatively dodgy places, it's just that London has quite a bad reputation with respect to crime. I don't need (nor want) to be in "upper class" places, I just don't want to get mugged three times a week.
It's hard to say, there's so much intermingling these days. Hackney for example is up and coming in terms of culture, and lifestyle, but I'd still consider it one of the most dangerous places to live. There's sort of a reverse 'C' of boroughs from Lambeth to Hackney which I wouldn't want to live in again. The further from the centre you go, the safer it gets. I'm lucky, I live in Kingston Borough which has some of the lowest crime figures in London, less than half that of Hackney or Lambeth.

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I'm going by both the Met's crime figures and my own experience of living in those places, behind the Works in Kingston on a Friday night for example. Whilst I agree there are clearly localalised problems in each area I don't think we've got time or inclination enough to go through each bit by bit. I'm giving a general view of London so he can start looking in the right sort of area.

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That was exactly one type of info I was looking for: places to avoid.

The usual thing with outskirts is that they can be either pretty calm, in a suburban type of way, but can also be festering pit-holes of poverty and misery...

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Originally posted by Palynka
That was exactly one type of info I was looking for: places to avoid.

The usual thing with outskirts is that they can be either pretty calm, in a suburban type of way, but can also be festering pit-holes of poverty and misery...
Well, it's really hard to be specific. Brixton is a really cool spot, but then there are real no go areas down there.

Have a search for places in London within your budget, and ask us about the area.

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Originally posted by Palynka
That was exactly one type of info I was looking for: places to avoid.

The usual thing with outskirts is that they can be either pretty calm, in a suburban type of way, but can also be festering pit-holes of poverty and misery...
Places to avoid number in the thousands, London's bloody enormous and so vast and varigated you'll never be able to get a view of it. Stay away from areas which have main roads, council estates, industrial estates, a lack of transport, high end crime figures or high rates of poverty. Past that, learn about each area by experience, there's not a lot else you can do.

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Originally posted by Palynka
What's wrong with Oval/Kennington?

The thing is I don't know squat about each area. Which zones do you think are relatively less safe?
I've got a mate who has lived around that area for years now - seems ok... has some good pubs too (Black Sheep being one I remember).

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Originally posted by Palynka
True.

Don't get me wrong, I don't mind living in relatively dodgy places, it's just that London has quite a bad reputation with respect to crime. I don't need (nor want) to be in "upper class" places, I just don't want to get mugged three times a week.
You've got to be kidding. Guns are illegal and you still have all that crime? Should they not ban crime?

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Originally posted by smw6869
You've got to be kidding. Guns are illegal and you still have all that crime? Should they not ban crime?
Guns are illegal in England now? Wow!

How did you accumulate such masses of worldly knowledge?

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