Medieval Diplomacy Strategy

Originally posted by no1marauder
The difference is Lithuania has little choice; they lost most of their army last turn. And don't be toooooooooo surprised if Rob does sink a knife in his back! But the Bavaria-Poland situation makes no sense for either.

There is always the threat for everyone to get backstabbed by anyone.
I already got betrayed once, I won't allow it again. I know who I can trust. I hope you do too..

Originally posted by buffalobill
Do you really think this thread is likely to make you friends? Please take it private.

LOL! I'm not soooooooooo pathetic I need to make pretend friends on the net. What about you?

Originally posted by no1marauder
Funny, I don't remember them every being in Buda with no Hungarian troops. Guess I'll have to check my old turnfiles.

EDIT: Of course, your troops in Tyrolia would have been too far away if he had done the smart thing and broke the alliance immediately.

The smart thing? Maybe, maybe not. Bavaria has a lot of friends. Would it be smart to have them all declare war on him immediately after his first turn? He's surrounded on three sides with Bavaria and nations who are allied to Bavaria or Bavaria's allies (or Bavaria's allies' allies...) Allying with Bavaria potentially puts him on good terms with the top four nations of the the known world, while warring with Bavaria does the opposite.

EDIT - Looks like the Italians are bailing on you, no1Hussein. There's one in charge of Roum's army as we speak! He's fantastically talented - the best infantry commander I've ever seen! I'm jealous 🙁.

Originally posted by schakuhr
There is always the threat for everyone to get backstabbed by anyone.
I already got betrayed once, I won't allow it again. I know who I can trust. I hope you do too..

Of course that true, but there's a difference between a reasonable risk under difficult circumstances and leaving your entire country wide open to somebody you don't know a thing about when you're among the leaders. Don't make sense.

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
The smart thing? Maybe, maybe not. Bavaria has a lot of friends. Would it be smart to have them all declare war on him immediately after his first turn? He's surrounded on three sides with Bavaria and nations who are allied to Bavaria or Bavaria's allies (or Bavaria's allies' allies...) Allying with Bavaria potentially puts him on good terms with the 's fantastically talented - the best infantry commander I've ever seen! I'm jealous 🙁.

And how would he know who Bavaria is allied with? He's be the strongest country on the board after he smashed Bavaria's innards. If all you guys want to do is play the game so somebody else wins, it makes perfect sense to leave the strongest countries to get stronger. Bavaria would have a lot less allies after it got busted up; ask Arles.

EDIT: Nice of you to hold most of your army back so Bavaria could finally say they took some of the Republic's land.

Originally posted by no1marauder
Of course that true, but there's a difference between a reasonable risk under difficult circumstances and leaving your entire country wide open to somebody you don't know a thing about when you're among the leaders. Don't make sense.

Ok, I generally read this thread with mild interest ignoring most the the BS between KW and no1 [thank god!] But I have a question about this.
no1:
It doesnt make sense to you. Right?
Well, that seems like you are taking it at face value, only what you can see. You are so certain that you are right that you jump to accusing someone of cheating [and yea, that is what it is, no matter how you spin it]
Ever seen the movie with Keri Russell called "Eight Days a Week"?
The kid in that thought that the woman across the street was crazy because of certain things she did, like talking on her phone on the roof and wearing a swimming mask and snorkle while gardening. Turns out, after he talked to her, he found out the reasons why she did those things, and it made perfect sense. You are jumping to conclusions based only on partial knowledge of a situation. Personally, I think it was a boner of a move myself, but I dont know why he did it. I am sure he has reasons.

Well, that is all I have to say, see ya in another thousand posts!

:x

Originally posted by no1marauder
And how would he know who Bavaria is allied with? He's be the strongest country on the board after he smashed Bavaria's innards. If all you guys want to do is play the game so somebody else wins, it makes perfect sense to leave the strongest countries to get stronger. Bavaria would have a lot less allies after it got busted up; ask Arles.

EDIT: Nice o ...[text shortened]... ld most of your army back so Bavaria could finally say they took some of the Republic's land.

I received an e-mail digest on Sat March 4 in which this guy clearly explained that he was now in control of Poland. That gives plenty of time to talk to people and figure out what's going on.

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
I received an e-mail digest on Sat March 4 in which this guy clearly explained that he was now in control of Poland. That gives plenty of time to talk to people and figure out what's going on.

Except he only returned e-mails from certain people while ignoring others. That's a bit odd too, ain't it?

Originally posted by no1marauder
Except he only returned e-mails from certain people while ignoring others. That's a bit odd too, ain't it?

Same thing happened to me in the other game. Spain didn't respond to messages in the second turn.

EDIT - It seems people are far more willing to discuss things with nations they feel to be dominant than with nations who seem to be losing.

Originally posted by catfoodtim
I'm losing.

What's to discuss?

A momentary setback, certainly. You'll still be part of the winning coalition once you get back on your feet!

Seriously, how much discussion have you had with Poland?

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Same thing happened to me in the other game. Spain didn't respond to messages in the second turn.

EDIT - It seems people are far more willing to discuss things with nations they feel to be dominant than with nations who seem to be losing.

Amazing that a nation can be "dominant" without winning a single battle or, until last turn, taking a single province from another realm.

Originally posted by no1marauder
What part of this is sooooooooooooooo hard for you clowns to understand?

I still say that no one in their right mind would allow a new player to just walk into his unprotected capital; it doesn't make any sense. He could have cancelled the alliance right away and declared war next turn and he would have had most of your center provinces without a fight. Are you really that dumb?

You are *still* playing this game like Panzerblitz, aren't you? Obviously what you find so bloody hard to understand is that this game is Medieval Diplomacy... DIPLOMACY... which you seem unable to grasp, is the art of dealing with people in such a way as to secure a favorable outcome for yourself. This is a key component of this game. Sounds like you just can't fathom this, especially if you go so far as to call KW a cheat because he's better at it than you. Get a clue, would you?