Originally posted by GottschalkAnd if you had been here from the beginning (have you read the entire thread? not many have the stomach for it, frankly), you'd know 1) the basic reasons behind what has turned into a blood-feud in this game (on BOTH sides, despite what one side will tell you), and 2) that I used to be a nice girl, with a nice disposition, before this game started...
I very much doubt you'd take this tone with me, if you were winning.
Originally posted by SuzianneGood morning to you too. 🙂
And if you had been here from the beginning (have you read the entire thread? not many have the stomach for it, frankly), you'd know 1) the basic reasons behind what has turned into a blood-feud in this game (on BOTH sides, despite what one side will tell you), and 2) that I used to be a nice girl, with a nice disposition, before this game started...
No1 and King Phil -
Since you seem to have no issue discussing or wanting to discuss the strategies of others, I am curious of the strategy behind your pull out of Venice.
This is not a dig or a jab or anything. You razzed me and BB for what you thought was a retreat from Alsace (which it was not, but that is another matter entirely, which I can discuss if you wish), yet you do the same with a city that is nearly 3 times the value, has a harbor and a very large fortification.
As it was, the fort would have done no good, but why not defend the second most valuble province on the map? I have to admit that I am rather surprised.
So, what is the strategy here? If you dont want to discuss it, that is fine too. Just thought it was worth asking.
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Originally posted by KnightWulfeWhat was the possibility that it could hold, KW? What losses would have been inflicted on the attacking forces? What would have remained on each side in ALL their territories?
No1 and King Phil -
Since you seem to have no issue discussing or wanting to discuss the strategies of others, I am curious of the strategy behind your pull out of Venice.
This is not a dig or a jab or anything. You razzed me and BB for what you thought was a retreat from Alsace (which it was not, but that is another matter entirely, which I can di ...[text shortened]... rategy here? If you dont want to discuss it, that is fine too. Just thought it was worth asking.
Originally posted by no1marauderThere would have been little chance, but look at what happened to Aragon/Castile when they attacked Swabia. I expected to get crushed, but the "dice" went in favor of myself and Saxony in a big way.
What was the possibility that it could hold, KW?
Besides that, with Morocco joining you and your assault on the Adriatic, to have dealt a significant blow to the invading troops, it would seem to be much easier to reclaim Venice than leaving the skeletal foot of a crew there for defense (which I thought was a good idea, btw - guaranteeing that we would take down the walls...) and allowing us to march in there with almost no losses at all.
You do have me curious as to how you intend to reclaim it now...but that is future strategy and I wont ask you to discuss that before the fact....
Originally posted by KnightWulfePleeze. The "dice" didn't go your way in Swabia; you and the Saxons had the advantage esp. in hit points. Aragon was told that he would lose the battle, but the Saxon "promised" him that he was withdrawing and he foolishly believed him. There's no comparison at all; in Venice thanks almost entirely to your Polish ally (who you allowed to be crushed in his home provinces) you had an overwhelming advantage.
There would have been little chance, but look at what happened to Aragon/Castile when they attacked Swabia. I expected to get crushed, but the "dice" went in favor of myself and Saxony in a big way.
Besides that, with Morocco joining you and your assault on the Adriatic, to have dealt a significant blow to the invading troops, it would seem to be much ...[text shortened]... im it now...but that is future strategy and I wont ask you to discuss that before the fact....
I could give you the link to Clausewitz again if you desire; it's explained in there what the purpose of an army is in war. It is not to fight hopeless battles which will lead your entire realm open to easy conquest.
Originally posted by no1marauderI would have stayed because you could have caused greater losses than yours, but anyway. You're the Doge of where? Alsace is another issue involving a rules error.
What was the possibility that it could hold, KW? What losses would have been inflicted on the attacking forces? What would have remained on each side in ALL their territories?
Originally posted by no1marauderAhem, I never "promised" Aragon anything. I just said I had done what we planned. I just did not say who "we" were. Minor difference, which I have no doubt you will jump on. Can we please rather continue the polite conversation?
Pleeze. The "dice" didn't go your way in Swabia; you and the Saxons had the advantage esp. in hit points. Aragon was told that he would lose the battle, but the Saxon "promised" him that he was withdrawing and he foolishly believed him. There's no comparison at all; in Venice thanks almost entirely to your Polish ally (who you allowed to be crushed in hi ...[text shortened]... is not to fight hopeless battles which will lead your entire realm open to easy conquest.
What I would like to know is the balance between CP and HP. Which is more important?
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Originally posted by buffalobillNo, I couldn't. because they had 21 Siege machines backed by Commanders, they were virtually certain to destroy the forts entirely. Mine and Phil's losses would have been far higher.
I would have stayed because you could have caused greater losses than yours, but anyway. You're the Doge of where? Alsace is another issue involving a rules error.
Governments in Exile are recognized; I remain the elected Doge of Venice.
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Originally posted by no1marauderYou numbers are wong in the Swabia battle, were were outnumbered by 200CS/10Hps in that battle by the invading forces.
Pleeze. The "dice" didn't go your way in Swabia; you and the Saxons had the advantage esp. in hit points. Aragon was told that he would lose the battle, but the Saxon "promised" him that he was withdrawing and he foolishly believed him. There's no comparison at all; in Venice thanks almost entirely to your Polish ally (who you allowed to be crushed in hi is not to fight hopeless battles which will lead your entire realm open to easy conquest.
As far as Poland.... they did not even number 25% of our forces.... We would have taken Venice anyway, the losses would have been heavier, had you stuck around.
However, since you have now turned this into a snarky thing, I am done.
Buh bye