Originally posted by no1marauderPoint taken on the siege engines. A difficult position.
No, I couldn't. because they had 21 Siege machines backed by Commanders, they were virtually certain to destroy the forts entirely. Mine and Phil's losses would have been far higher.
Governments in Exile are recognized; I remain the elected Doge of Venice.
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Originally posted by buffalobillWhatever. That just makes him even stupider. I told him it was a trap.
Ahem, I never "promised" Aragon anything. I just said I had done what we planned. I just did not say who "we" were. Minor difference, which I have no doubt you will jump on. Can we please rather continue the polite conversation?
What I would like to know is the balance between CP and HP. Which is more important?
I generally do a full analysis of the probable result on any battle based on the average number of hits each army can be expected to get and receive, their losses based on the probable disposition of their ranks and the probable length of the battle. My analysis of these factors in the Venice situation, showed that in the first round (2 phases) mine and Phil's forces would have lost virtually everything, but some cavalry and that we would have put perhaps 750 CS losses on the enemy while losing at least 2000 of our own. It would have been folly to fight a battle under such conditions.
Originally posted by buffalobillReally?? Does any of this look familiar?
Ahem, I never "promised" Aragon anything. I just said I had done what we planned. I just did not say who "we" were. Minor difference, which I have no doubt you will jump on. Can we please rather continue the polite conversation?
What I would like to know is the balance between CP and HP. Which is more important?
Work is complicated.
Yes, I will withdraw from Swabia and send in a peace offer. Ssh about this.
>Ha ha ha! What sort of work do you do?
As far as the game goes: will you withdraw from Swabia this turn? I'll send you a peace offer immediately. Then you can get on with clobbering Denmark.
>Sheez, give me a chance. There's work too, you know.
After the rhetoric, I think Bavaria can fight his own battles, so I accept your offer. We can talk further next turn.
Duke Radolph
>Duke Radulph,
I hear that you are to enter into a coalition with my ally, Aquitaine. In the interests of final victory, I urge you to consider letting Bavaria fight on its own. I don't like the current odds in Swabia and am considering moving into your territory via Lorraine instead. Where else do I have to go? Provide me with the assurance that you will withdraw from Swabia this season & I will offer peace, which is certainly in my own best interests and, I hope you will agree, yours too.
Cordially
Aragon
Originally posted by no1marauderInteresting that Aragon sent you all correspondence despite my asking him to keep it quiet. And you leave out any subsequent correspondence which I guess you have not been party to. It was necessary given the situation and I can live with it.
Really?? Does any of this look familiar?
Work is complicated.
Yes, I will withdraw from Swabia and send in a peace offer. Ssh about this.
>Ha ha ha! What sort of work do you do?
As far as the game goes: will you withdraw from Swabia this turn? I'll send you a peace offer immediately. Then you can get on with clobbering Denmark.
...[text shortened]... tainly in my own best interests and, I hope you will agree, yours too.
Cordially
Aragon
Thanks for sharing. Your last diatribes also helped me a lot.
Originally posted by KnightWulfePoland tipped the balance; you wouldn''t have been able to hold Istria on prior turns without their forces. I probably would have fought the battle if the Polish forces were not present; even if I had lost Phil and I could have mustered a sufficient force to drive your few remaining forces out the next turn particulary once we had regained control of the Adriatric. Poland won Venice for you beyond question. She was repaid in the manner of all Heather "allies".
You numbers are wong in the Swabia battle, were were outnumbered by 200CS/10Hps in that battle by the invading forces.
As far as Poland.... they did not even number 25% of our forces.... We would have taken Venice anyway, the losses would have been heavier, had you stuck around.
However, since you have now turned this into a snarky thing, I am done.
Buh bye
I save turnfiles; the Spanish might have had a couple extra hundred CS but you had an advantage of 104 to 89 in HP. And that's not counting the effect of a Level 2 Fort (another 5 HP). His attack was folly, my analysis showed he would lose and he was so informed.
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Originally posted by buffalobillIt's also interesting that you would blatantly lie like you did in the other post.
Interesting that Aragon sent you all correspondence despite my asking him to keep it quiet. And you leave out any subsequent correspondence which I guess you have not been party to. It was necessary given the situation and I can live with it.
Thanks for sharing. Your last diatribes also helped me a lot.
EDIT: If by my "diatribe" you mean the info regarding battles, I've always been willing to share any knowledge I have of the game system with anybody in this thread.
Originally posted by buffalobillBB: Ahem, I never "promised" Aragon anything. I just said I had done what we planned. I just did not say who "we" were.
You've read the rules of Medieval Diplomocy. Like law or public relations, some times you don't tell the whole truth. Just part of it.
How much "truth" is contained in that statement?
Originally posted by no1marauderCall it what you will. Have you asked Aragon whether you can repost PMs? But you don't respect those rules, do you?
Reconcile these two statements:
I never "promised" Aragon anything
AND
Yes, I will withdraw from Swabia and send in a peace offer.
Sounds like a "promise" to me.
Originally posted by buffalobillI'll leave that to others; I'd say it's pretty clear.
Call it what you will. Have you asked Aragon whether you can repost PMs? But you don't respect those rules, do you?
I explained my position regarding PM's relating to this game a few pages ago, to wit:
I consider PM's relating to this game as different from normal PM's. A normal PM is addressed to me the person and is ALWAYS kept completely confidential. A PM relating to MD is considered to be part of the game. Norway is not allied to me, so I treat messages from her as information that the Doge of Venice has obtained. If such information can be used to benefit my or other realms, I feel free to use it.
Aragon betrayed King Phil and I last turn in the Adriatric and has allied himself with my enemies allowing them to concentrate their forces against Italy. I owe their treacherous and foolish King nothing (well, except a debt that is being paid).
Originally posted by no1marauderYes, that's why it's called Medieval Diplomacy. What you're saying is any in-game mail can be used however you like and any sort of in-game deceit is acceptable. Although there may be payback. Thank you for this simple explanation of the game.
I'll leave that to others; I'd say it's pretty clear.
I explained my position regarding PM's relating to this game a few pages ago, to wit:
I consider PM's relating to this game as different from normal PM's. A normal PM is addressed to me the person and is ALWAYS kept completely confidential. A PM relating to MD is considered to be p ...[text shortened]... I owe their treacherous and foolish King nothing (well, except a debt that is being paid).
Originally posted by buffalobillBut lying about your lies is a bit cheeky don't you think, Dear Duke??
Yes, that's why it's called Medieval Diplomacy. What you're saying is any in-game mail can be used however you like and any sort of in-game deceit is acceptable. Although there may be payback. Thank you for this simple explanation of the game.