Originally posted by buffalobillI'm sorry about the Power Ratings; I'm still moving both my residence and my office and my online time is quite limited. I'll try to get them done tonight in both MD and NE.
So, where's the maps? The updated power ratings?
I really don't have time to respond to Princess Dimwit's idiocies. Suffice to say, Roum was an obvious enemy of the Mamulukes, who's only two choices were attacking Morocco which had a number of allies who would have actually assisted them or attacking Roum. She planned to attack them according to her and had massed ships and troops within striking distance of them. They hit her first and profited from it. I made every effort to prevent the other members of the Med Alliance from attacking the Mamulukes as they know and even went to war against Morocco because they did. The idea that I "tricked" or "betrayed" the Mamulukes is simply laughable.
It is reasonably obvious that some people are playing the game in the fashion they are for reasons of personal pique (I have no clue what Poland is doing; the last turn it was determined that Bavarian Peasant Rabble were more important than Polish Boyar Guards as the BG's were placed in a lower rank). I am not one of them. My allies have profited from their alliance with Venice to the best of my ability to aid them. This is a simple fact no matter what the Turkish bitch says.
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Now might be a good time for Hungary to reassess the value of their one sided "alliance" with the Bavarian. Thanks to the efforts of Italy and the Mamulukes in the Adriatric and Tuscany, there's only Hungarian troops in Venice. ATY could have that 32 Gold province for the taking in two turns and finally actually increase his province gold holdings which have stagnated since Turn 7. Of course, that would be against the "rules" everybody else seems to be playing by which is not to do a single thing which hurts Bavaria, but it would have the element of poetic justice and karma in its favor.
Originally posted by no1marauderOf course, he could also just follow the path that he is intent on following and march through Sicily. It would net him a whole lot more than just a single 32 gold province as well as making yet another enemy or few. Why not stay on the path that gives him more? Why not take Tuscany (9g) and Rome (20g) and Naples (16g?) and Apulia (8g?) and Sicily (7g?) and Calabria (19g?)? Hmmm... that is a whole lotta gold...and he would have help doing it.... Hmmm...geez...that is a tough choice. I am sure that your choice has merit too though...after all, you are a military genius. Right?
Now might be a good time for Hungary to reassess the value of their one sided "alliance" with the Bavarian. Thanks to the efforts of Italy and the Mamulukes in the Adriatric and Tuscany, there's only Hungarian troops in Venice. ATY could have that 32 Gold province for the taking in two turns and finally actually increase his province gold holdings which ...[text shortened]... hich hurts Bavaria, but it would have the element of poetic justice and karma in its favor.
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Originally posted by orfeoThen I guess you need to be updated... just a bit.
(3) I was claiming it was obvious the Poles exposed their underbelly. I made no comment about what the Mamlukes did or didn't do. I would have to analyse more closely to see what happened with the Mamlukes - who started in Egypt and are STILL in Egypt as at round 16. I've kept the maps.
In fact, those maps show that Jerusalem and Antioch started off as i ...[text shortened]... round 17? Or is this just proof that you have no capacity to be accurate in your statements?
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Originally posted by KnightWulfeHe'd have to fight heavy forces for those and of a realm that's repeatedly defeated him in battle (as we did AGAIN in the Adriatic last turn). He can have Venice for virtually nothing plus your entire underbelly is wide open for two large Hungarian armies. Venice, Istria, Carinthia, etc. etc. etc. are worth more than southern Italy, aren't they? And who's your logical target after Italy, KW? Either the Spanish or the Hungarians, both of whom are foolishly intent on making their eventual enemy stronger. That's folly.
Of course, he could also just follow the path that he is intent on following and march through Sicily. It would net him a whole lot more than just a single 32 gold province as well as making yet another enemy or few. Why not stay on the path that gives him more? Why not take Tuscany (9g) and Rome (20g) and Naples (16g?) and Apulia (8g?) and Sicily (7g?) ...[text shortened]... . I am sure that your choice has merit too though...after all, you are a military genius. Right?
BTW, you never answered my question: how did the Teutons betray YOU??
Originally posted by no1marauderThen I guess your ability to aid them is crap, because they have NOT profited. Ask the Mamlukes if they are indeed better off. If they've profited soooo much, then why is your alliance now dust in the wind?
I really don't have time to respond to Princess Dimwit's idiocies. Suffice to say, Roum was an obvious enemy of the Mamulukes, who's only two choices were attacking Morocco which had a number of allies who would have actually assisted them or attacking Roum. She planned to attack them according to her and had massed ships and troops within striking ...[text shortened]... of my ability to aid them. This is a simple fact no matter what the Turkish bitch says.
And no, the idea that you tricked the Mamlukes is not really that laughable. It should be obvious to most everyone by now. The idea that you expect people to believe you when you say you didn't, *is* laughable.
They and Roum had the #2 and #3 fleets on the map. As the nation with the #1 fleet, yes, it behooved you to get them to attack me. It was a master stroke, yes, I do not deny that. But to deny that you purposefully sent the Mamlukes to their death is ridiculous. And the fact that they agreed to it, when everyone else you've tried to incite against their neighbor and ally saw through your crap, is amazing. No wonder you jumped on the new player with both feet. As "fresh meat", of course he'd have no idea just what you were about until it was too late.
And playing out of personal pique? HAHAHA... on the contrary, I am enjoying seeing you twist in the wind as you scramble to avoid the destruction of your PR machine. Who was it that insisted on getting Crete back out of the many spoils of Roum? Now that sounds like pique.
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Originally posted by no1marauderWell now, that is a matter for debate and discussion, isnt it? Who says that ANYONE has to go after their neighbors? You certainly have not restricted yourself to that. Neither has anyone with a fleet. Certainly I have been restricted since I have not had a fleet for the majority of the game, however, that is changing soon. There are ample potential targets for everyone. At this point in the game an alliance to somebody somewhere will be broken. Each of the factions in this game have worked with members of other factions to accomplish various things in this game. Alliances have formed and alliances have broken. I am sure that is not done.
He'd have to fight heavy forces for those and of a realm that's repeatedly defeated him in battle (as we did AGAIN in the Adriatic last turn). He can have Venice for virtually nothing plus your entire underbelly is wide open for two large Hungarian armies. Venice, Istria, Carinthia, etc. etc. etc. are worth more than southern Italy, aren't they? And who' ...[text shortened]... That's folly.
BTW, you never answered my question: how did the Teutons betray YOU??
As far as what I am going to do? That is up to me and my allies now, isnt it? Why should I say anything here that you will guaranteed take and twist into something that you will try to cause discent amongst your enemies.
As to the Teuton question....
We came to an agreement. In it, he was to leave Poland alone.
I lived up to my part of the bargan.
He didnt.
That is how he betrayed me.
I am sure you want to know the agreement.... Sorry, not your business. The point is, he did not live up to his end, thus voiding the alliance.
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Originally posted by no1marauderEventual enemy? Get serious. Either this is more crap from your propaganda machine, or you really are stupid.
He'd have to fight heavy forces for those and of a realm that's repeatedly defeated him in battle (as we did AGAIN in the Adriatic last turn). He can have Venice for virtually nothing plus your entire underbelly is wide open for two large Hungarian armies. Venice, Istria, Carinthia, etc. etc. etc. are worth more than southern Italy, aren't they? And who' ...[text shortened]... s, both of whom are foolishly intent on making their eventual enemy stronger. That's folly.
Say what you will (and you will, no doubt) about the "Heathers"... just because *you* cannot hold an alliance together (hint: try not lying to them), does not mean that the "Heathers" can't. So please, stop trying to pit them against each other. It's making you look foolish.
Originally posted by SuziannePrincess Dimwit, I've talked with the Mamlukes and he's quite happy he told me. I've invited him to RHP to share a laugh at you if he's got time.
Then I guess your ability to aid them is crap, because they have NOT profited. Ask the Mamlukes if they are indeed better off. If they've profited soooo much, then why is your alliance now dust in the wind?
And no, the idea that you tricked the Mamlukes is not really that laughable. It should be obvious to most everyone by now. The idea that you expe ...[text shortened]... nsisted on getting Crete back out of the many spoils of Roum? Now that sounds like pique.
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