Well, when No.1 and I are done, it will be funny to see what happens from there. You guys could call it 18 seasons to overnight success in Italy, and perhaps by then at least 1 of you guys will realize all you did was help another player win for no gain of your own.
I'll look forward to the new excuses for this or that when you are all finally at each other's throats, and that is when the truths will start to be realized. Until then, keep twisting and deny it all.
Italy has been true to everyone we've dealt with, and that makes sleeping easy.
King!
Originally posted by no1marauderWhy do you insist on stating facts and then drawing the wrong conclusion? Why it must be your failed propaganda machine at work again!
You really are the biggest idiot I've ever dealt with. Again and for the record, NO ONE in this game can cite a single instance where I've lied to ANYBODY. Not even YOU. So for you to keep claiming I have is just a blatant falsehood, something you seem to spew out in every post. I had no idea the Moroccans were going to attack the Mamulukes; ASK HIM (Noo ...[text shortened]... knew there was a new player in the game! So how, in the name of God, did I accomplish that???
Your continued using of the Mamlukes has NOTHING to do with Morocco! WHO CARES if you didn't know he was going to attack the Mamlukes? (I don't doubt that for a second, btw) Morocco doesn't even enter into it, so stop trying to avoid the issue!
And YES, the Mamlukes had stuff on my border... I had stuff on his, too... this happened while the Mamlukes, under the old player, were STILL MY ALLY...
You still don't get it, do you? I'm saying you don't alter the facts, you're smarter than that. You just try to make everyone believe that those same facts have a different cause, or that somehow, the minor facts are more important than the more important facts... and you pick and choose which facts to talk about at all... these tactics are among those you've learned in your profession, so I'm not surprised at all that you use them here... what surprises me is that people are suckered in by them... misleading statements and circumvention... they've been your hallmark in this forum from day one...
And your supreme arrogance can't let you believe that a mere woman can see through your crappy attempts at "logic"...
So again, you didn't accomplish jack, except for convincing the Mamlukes to impale themselves..... dang, how dense do you have to be? Oh, yes, that's right... it's that darned propaganda machine again...
Originally posted by no1marauderSpeaking of hilarious, everyone KNOWS that those three wouldn't be the target of those ships...
Your brand spanking new fleet is sitting with your old one at the bottom of the sea. Sure you can keep building more and IF everybody keeps making it easy for you that fleet will break out into the Med and from their it can attack A) The Spanish; B) The Hungarians or C) The Moroccans. So it would behoove the 3 of them not to let you get a fleet into the ...[text shortened]... et you are the Teutons. Guess you couldn't get other countries to do most of the work there.
Give it up... we see your crap for what it is... pathetic attempts to create dissension among your enemies...
Originally posted by PhlabibitYour sleep is affected by how you treat people in this game? LOSER!!!!
Well, when No.1 and I are done, it will be funny to see what happens from there. You guys could call it 18 seasons to overnight success in Italy, and perhaps by then at least 1 of you guys will realize all you did was help another player win for no gain of your own.
I'll look forward to the new excuses for this or that when you are all finally at each ...[text shortened]... .
Italy has been true to everyone we've dealt with, and that makes sleeping easy.
King!
Originally posted by no1marauderNO, fool!! I TOLD you I was going to attack him... and this was part of my successful attempt to get you to ally with me. You really don't get the Diplomacy part of Medievel Diplomacy, do you? Even after all this time...
YOU were going to attack him!!! Your posts are getting more and more ridiculous. His best chance of avoiding being destroyed was allying with one of his potential enemies (Morocco) and warring on the weaker one (you). That is actual STRATEGY, something you know zero about. IF Morocco and Aragon ever decided to attack him he was screwed anyway. This gave ...[text shortened]... d that; he took it. I wanted the Moroccans and the Spanish to hit Hungarian territory. ASK THEM.
And no... his BEST chance to avoid being destroyed was to ally with Morocco AND Roum, and you KNOW that. Your fleets would be so much fish food by now if he had the presence of mind to realize that the #2 fleet and the #3 fleet together could outgun the #1 fleet. But you and your golden tongue got to him first...
Again, WHO CARES about Morocco and Castile?? They do not enter into the fact that you used the Mamlukes for your own ends. God, just admit it so we can all move on, will you?
Originally posted by PhlabibitCongrats! on the funniest post I've read today!
Well, when No.1 and I are done, it will be funny to see what happens from there. You guys could call it 18 seasons to overnight success in Italy, and perhaps by then at least 1 of you guys will realize all you did was help another player win for no gain of your own.
I'll look forward to the new excuses for this or that when you are all finally at each ...[text shortened]... .
Italy has been true to everyone we've dealt with, and that makes sleeping easy.
King!
Originally posted by SuzianneYou're being choleric! Careful.
NO, fool!! I TOLD you I was going to attack him... and this was part of my successful attempt to get you to ally with me. You really don't get the Diplomacy part of Medievel Diplomacy, do you? Even after all this time...
And no... his BEST chance to avoid being destroyed was to ally with Morocco AND Roum, and you KNOW that. Your fleets would be so mu ...[text shortened]... t you used the Mamlukes for your own ends. God, just admit it so we can all move on, will you?
Originally posted by SuzianneYou're such a moron. Did you EVER try to ally with the Mamulukes and/or Morocco??? Who doesn't GET the Diplomacy part, retard??
NO, fool!! I TOLD you I was going to attack him... and this was part of my successful attempt to get you to ally with me. You really don't get the Diplomacy part of Medievel Diplomacy, do you? Even after all this time...
And no... his BEST chance to avoid being destroyed was to ally with Morocco AND Roum, and you KNOW that. Your fleets would be so mu ...[text shortened]... t you used the Mamlukes for your own ends. God, just admit it so we can all move on, will you?
Again, he moved his ships and troops against you before I even knew he was in the game. When I saw a new player was in, I e-mailed him which I have done with all new players since early in the game. He asked for assistance against you and as it served my interests, I agreed to give him some. It served his interest to move against you for the reasons already stated.
I allied with you ONLY so I could invade Macedonia; I didn't trust you. You can't seem to make up your mind; first, you were going to attack the Mamulukes, then Italy, now apparently neither. Your "diplomacy" was pretty inept since it helped me and hurt you (my Balkan invasion tied up large numbers of Hungarian troops, damaged Hungarian production and probably delayed the fall of Venice for at least 4 turns). So you thought you were being clever, but you were just being dimwitted. Tough break.
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Originally posted by buffalobillBugger off. Be thankful I didn't time you out when you were posting in this thread but not moving in our games. That's poor form, Sport, but I'm a nice guy.
Can we tone down the sexist talk? I take offence to you calling Suzi a "dumb bitch". She's still around and will be here when you're gone.
Originally posted by SuzianneThe issue YOU are making is claiming that I somehow got the Mamulukes to attack you and then betrayed them. That is BS. He WAS going to attack you. I saw that him attacking you was likely and figured it was in my interest to help him do so. So I did. That's the WHOLE thing of it in a nutshell. I didn't help him because you're a woman or because of anything that's been said in this thread; I don't think like that. I helped him because you were a threat to Italy. The destruction of your fleet and the gutting of your power removed that threat. That Morocco wound up attacking the Mamulukes when he was on the verge of total victory over you is a bad break for him, but one I had nothing whatsoever to do with.
Why do you insist on stating facts and then drawing the wrong conclusion? Why it must be your failed propaganda machine at work again!
Your continued using of the Mamlukes has NOTHING to do with Morocco! WHO CARES if you didn't know he was going to attack the Mamlukes? (I don't doubt that for a second, btw) Morocco doesn't even enter into it, so stop ...[text shortened]... ve to be? Oh, yes, that's right... it's that darned propaganda machine again...
So you can stop your screeching; the facts are pretty simple. Your neutralization as a power helped me, Sicily, Castile, Morocco, Aragon and yes, the Mamulukes, too. You were easy pickings then and you are easy pickings now. Even the Horde grabbed some of your territory and I doubt the Moroccans and Aragonese are going to leave you around for long. It's possible you might outlast me but I guarantee I'll go down bloodier for whichever group of nations finally can finish me off.
This week's Power Ratings (with a new no1):
1. Morocco 2
2. Golden Horde 1
3. Aragon 6
4. Saxony 3
5. Bavaria 4
6. Sicily 5
7. Castile 8
8. Acquitaine 9
9. Hungary 7
10. Venice 10
11. Norway 14
12. France 13
13. Mamulukes 11
14. Byzantine 16
15. Novgorod 12
16. Roum 17
17. Hafsids 18
18. Teutons 15
19. Denmark 19
20. Poland 20
21. England 21
Eliminated: Arles, Lithuania
2 out, 2 effectively eliminated (unless you really believe that the Bavarian is going to cede Savoy and/or Rome to Poland🙄 and the Teutons and Denmark don't look like they'll make it past two more turns at most. Probably Venice after that if the Horde attacks our Asia Minor holdings and then Novgorod and Norway is my guess. Sooner or later though some of the big boys will actually have to grow the ballsz to take on each other.