it is obvious that he never intended to pay you all along. im sure that if you sit down and talk with him you will both agree on that. (i can tell this by the dishes part and.....not paying you) Anyways, dont pay him. he set up a situation where you were gambling and he wasn't. you were playing with money and he wasn't.
Originally posted by Dies IraeI disagree. If you gamble then you need to pay your debts. Only way to learn a lesson. Don't ever gamble with money you don't have, period.
Unless you are physically afraid of him, don't pay him. All you are proving is that you are weaker than he is. I would not give him a dime.
this just gets more hilarious, i forgot to mention another cheap tactic that he used. about a week or two ago i came home and i was locked out of my house. i couldn't get in but then i found one of the bedroom windows was unlocked but still closed. i couldn't reach it by foot so i searched for something to elevate myself. on the deck i found one of randys tables (that he obviously didn't care to much about, other wise he woulda never left it their.). anyway i used it to get into the house unfortuntly the thing kinda collapsed under me. and 2 legs fell off of it. i didnt think much of it. i mean the table is a piece of sh!#t. its got scratches all over it, the paint is chiped in many places. the wood is cracked in many places. the collapse of it was inevitable. when randy got home i told him about it. after he thought about it for a bit he said i owed him $100. he claimed that in mint condition it was worth $300 easy and that it was a 1920's antique. he said in that condition that it was in hed still get $100 for it easy. he then said pay me $100 or pay to have it fixed by some professional wood worker who'd charge $50. i never took a close look at it but i put the broken table on the deck and it sat their for about a week. yesterday when i was up $140 he brought the table up again and said that i owed him $100 for it and he said that means, "i pretty much owe you nothing". the table is really a joke though. youd be lucky to get $40 for it. i mean i bought a nice used wood table for $40 a couple of months ago and its quite a bit nicer and in way better shape. anyway last night i went outside to take a close look at it and to see if i could fix it. i found that nothing much was wrong with it in terms of the damage that i had done; 2 of the screws where bent so i just re bended them and then screwed the table together and tightened the 2 other legs also. i told randy that it was fixed and that he should go take a look at it and he was depressed at the time and said hed look at it tommorow. after he beat me for the last time today (the $70) he mentioned that the table was in fine shape now and was very pleased. is this guy a scam artist or what. i can't beleive a word he says. he tells me all these wild storys and i used to believe him but now i doubt 70% of them. ive learned he loves to lie. and he claims to be totally honest.
ohh and another thing he did while we played poker. he has a very bad habit of looking at other players cards ever since i started playing poker with him. for example if i make a big bet and he folds he'll get your cards and turn them over to see what the other player had. so on thursday we made a new rule that if either of us look at the cards that the "looker" would be charged 5 red chips (the most valuable chips). he agreed. i asked him again if he totally understood the rule and he said yes 5 red chips for looking and something like, "you have my mans word". anyway during the course of all those games he looked at my cards on at least 4 occaions when i caught him. each time i demanded my 5 red chips and each time he said "no" and when i attempted to grab them from his side of the table he said, "dont you dare touch those, if you take them i'll quit and not pay you anything." so of course i had to let him have his way again. but he said next time hed sufffer the consequences, but guess what he lied again and said the same thing that hed quit and not pay. on one occasion he ended up winning the game and said, "i shoulda just gave you those 5 chips, i still woulda beat you anyway."
lastly during our second to last game i told him that he was a d!$ck. he looked at me with great seriousness and said something like, "if your saying that as a joke then thats ok, but if you actually mean it thats sad. and i said yeah i actually mean it and he said yeah michael i know you do but you really shouldn't." is this guy messed or what?
funny thing is before randy got in such debt against me he would tell me some great stories about how if you ever used inproper edicate in poker games with serious poker player; for example, not paying your debts, looking at cards and so on. that that would be the greatest sin at a poker table. and that you'd be banned from playing and probeblly get your head knocked out a few times. ironic that it was coming from him.
Originally posted by ArrakThe guy obviously sucks at life.
funny thing is before randy got in such debt against me he would tell me some great stories about how if you ever used in proper edicate in poker games with serious poker player; for example, not paying your debts, looking at cards and so on. that that would be the greatest sin at a poker table. and that you'd be banned from playing and probeblly get your head knocked out a few times. ironic that it was coming from him.
Originally posted by ArrakYou don't have a key to your own house?
this just gets more hilarious, i forgot to mention another cheap tactic that he used. about a week or two ago i came home and i was locked out of my house. i couldn't get in but then i found one of the bedroom windows was unlocked but still closed. i couldn't reach it by foot so i searched for something to elevate myself. on the deck i found one of randys ael i know you do but you really shouldn't." is this guy messed or what?
Yeah, it's getting hilarious, but perhaps not in the way you intended.
Originally posted by LennyBruceThis thread is one of the most hilarious I ever read, tell this guy Randy that he can come to me to pick up a hundred dollars just for entertainment value and if he want I can throw in a can of whup ass too!
Either this 40-something year old man is too weird for words OR his side of the story might sound quite a bit different.
