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It’s just an example of a damaging early developmental history. I think it’s important to remember that infants, through no fault of their own, are shaped into criminals over a period of time. If prison is the only time that society has ever taken an interest in them then they deserve a chance to be helped to change. I’m not in agreement with your idea of treating a certain group of offenders in exactly the same way and locking them up for ever. That was seen as the only solution for people with severe mental illness and abandoned children with learning disabilities in the Victorian era yet look how far things have improved for them.

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Originally posted by @drewnogal
It’s just an example of a damaging early developmental history. I think it’s important to remember that infants, through no fault of their own, are shaped into criminals over a period of time. If prison is the only time that society has ever taken an interest in them then they deserve a chance to be helped to change. I’m not in agreement with your idea o ...[text shortened]... with learning disabilities in the Victorian era yet look how far things have improved for them.
Drew, I like what you say and I agree. If I had been able to express your views as part of my own post, it would have been in line with how I feel.
Prison is a way to deal with dangerous individuals when things have gone too far and no - or insufficient - help has been provided earlier.


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For some reason a number of forensic professionals have decided to put their jobs on the line and have made a decision to consider him for a civil commitment which would mean that he would be regularly assessed by an outpatient psychiatric outpatient unit at the minimum. You speak as if you have more experience upon the subject than they do and are also being dismissive of them having acquired a 43 year profile upon him since his prison sentence.



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drewnogal is saying that the professionals involved feel that a man who
abducted a little girl, raped her and asphyxiated her should be released.

Her opinion is that we should respect their decision unless
you are privy to extra information that we and they are not.

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How can we expect a man to live a normal life if he has raped a hundred women, and what happens if he doesn't? If a hundred raped women isn't enough to keep him locked up, then how many does it take?

Rape isn't about sex, it's about power.

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This turned into a pretty good debate!

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Everyone has bad stuff in their lives. It's absolutely no excuse whatsover for a crime such as rape. I can understand that if your child was starving, you would steal for food. I certainly would. Nevertheless, people go through much worse than what many rapists go through and they turn out all right. It is a choice to rape and kill someone, it has no benefits to anyone, whereas I can see why someone would steal.

I don't have a daughter (being 19, this is not yet on the agenda) but I want the world to be safe when I do have one. South Africa has so much rape it's hardly eventful. Every second week some poor girl is found in a ditch, and as a nation, we have to deal with that all the time and being exposed to the victim's stories.

If you rape someone, you don't deserve a second chance. It's too much of a risk to other people. You lost your right to a second chance when you raped and murdered someone's child.

Bring back the death penalty.



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If someone raped and murdered my sister I doubt I could show them any mercy if I saw them.

I think there are benefits to the death penalty. Not going to get into it now though...


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Why not just express your own opinions instead of second guessing those of others?