Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou're still dodging the question that underpins this whole incident which this: do you think abusers have a right to keep their abusive behaviour "confidential" and that the people they abuse have some obligation to keep the abuse "confidential"? This is the key to what happened, and yet you have been sidestepping it for pages and pages..
Actually no, its none of my business. Chaney is correct, FMF betrayed a confidence, regardless of his motives, he betrayed a confidence placing him alongside other disreputables like, Judas Iscariot, Benedict Arnold and Jack Short the betrayer of Scottish legend William Wallace.
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Originally posted by FMFThat is not the issue here. I am more interested in ascertaining what right you think you have to betray a confidential text simply because you allege that it contains abusive material. This is the issue. The abuser infact appears to me to be you, you have abused a trust.
You're still dodging the question that underpins this whole incident which this: do you think abusers have a right to keep their abusive behaviour "confidential" and that the people they abuse have some obligation to keep the abuse "confidential"? This is the key to what happened, and yet you have been sidestepping it for pages and pages..
Originally posted by robbie carrobieBut it is the issue. If the PM had not contained abuse and threats, I would not have dreamed of sharing it with my friends. I shared it with my friends because I do not believe people who are targets of abuse do not have any obligation to keep the abuser's behaviour secret. It most certainly is the key issue and the key question for you to answer, and yet you dodge it and are still dodging it.
That is not the issue here. I am more interested in ascertaining what right you think you have to betray a confidential text simply because you allege that it contains abusive material. This is the issue. The abuser infact appears to me to be you, you have abused a trust.
Originally posted by FMFyes we understand this however you yourself may be guilty of abusing a trust.
But it is the issue. If the PM had not contained abuse and threats, I would not have dreamed of sharing it with my friends. I shared it with my friends because I do not believe people who are targets of abuse do not have any obligation to keep the abuser's behaviour secret. It most certainly is the key issue and the key question for you to answer, and yet you dodge it and are still dodging it.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieBut I have stated over and over again what right I think I have in the case of an abusive PM and yet you just keep ignoring it and refusing to address the question it raises. You don't appear to be "interested" in the issue at all.
I am more interested in ascertaining what right you think you have to betray a confidential text simply because you allege that it contains abusive material. This is the issue.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieSo you believe that an abuser can use the concept of "trust" to create a veil of secrecy around their abusive behaviour and use it to try to guarantee the silence - and therefore the cooperation - of the person they are abusing? Is that your stance?
yes we understand this however you yourself may be guilty of abusing a trust.