Blimey, this is getting nasty.
I feel like a gatecrasher on this thread but here's my twopence worth anyway:
PM's are simply conversations between two people - nothing more. Let's not get too worked up about the 'P' bit.
If someone sends me something insulting/weird/outrageous/funny via a PM, then sod it, I may well share it with someone else. It is tantamount to gossip, nothing more, but It won't make me a 'disgusting human being'.
Amazing how almost any post here ends up as a slanging-match between the usual combatants. Sometimes entertaining but not in this case.
Originally posted by FMFIndeed, still one does not get these opportunities everyday to cross examine you from a position relative safety.
We obviously disagree. I have been very clear as to how I have arrived at my view. The credibility of your view is undermined by your strangle brandishing of the words "confidential", "trust" and "betrayal".
If Suzianne feels, as you suggest, humiliated by people knowing what was in the message she sent me, then she perhaps ought not to have sent it in the first place.
'Strangle brandishing', tee hee that funny 😀
Originally posted by LarkieWe are animated by similar ethical principles, I think.
PM's are simply conversations between two people - nothing more. Let's not get too worked up about the 'P' bit. If someone sends me something insulting/ weird/ outrageous/ funny via a PM, then sod it, I may well share it with someone else. It is tantamount to gossip, nothing more, but It won't make me a 'disgusting human being'.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou still are steering clear of the question about why you think abusers have a right to keep their abusive behaviour secret and that those they abuse have some obligation to keep the abuse secret.
Indeed, still one does not get these opportunities everyday to cross examine you from a position relative safety.
Originally posted by FMFThat's because I need to think deeply about it. I have not come to any kind of consensus in my mind. What I do understand though is that its not very pleasant when you trust someone with a private correspondence only to find out that they have betrayed your trust.
You still are steering clear of the question about why you think abusers have a right to keep their abusive behaviour secret and that those they abuse have some obligation to keep the abuse secret.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieIf you have not thought about the issue at stake in this case ~ and still "need to think deeply about it" ~ why have you posted so many times, saying the same things over an over again, that demonstrate that you obviously have not yet thought deeply about the issue behind what is being discussed?
That's because I need to think deeply about it. I have not come to any kind of consensus in my mind. What I do understand though is that its not very pleasant when you trust someone with a private correspondence only to find out that they have betrayed your trust.
FMF: galveston75 accused me of being a homosexual predator stalking him and making unsavoury sexual advances towards him and he said he was going to tell the web site about it.Accusing someone - with whom one disagrees on a message board - of being a homosexual predator stalker who is making unsavoury sexual advances towards the person he disagrees with on a discussion forum might be seen by many as being nothing more or less than trying to silence dissent and disagreement. And, of course, his silly accusations disappeared as soon as I told people about them.
Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Perhaps if you refrained from stalking and harassing him he would not have construed your behaviour in the way that he did?
FMF: We shared some music we'd made. And I helped you track down some folk music you were interested in.I've got a blog where you can stream a few dozen of my songs, or at least sample a few of them... if "a few dozen" sounds deluded. Do you want a link?
Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I do recall some pleasant texts....
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieWobbie,
That's because I need to think deeply about it. I have not come to any kind of consensus in my mind. What I do understand though is that its not very pleasant when you trust someone with a private correspondence only to find out that they have betrayed your trust.
Just goes to show that after all these years you haven't realized you can't trust anyone!!! Shows what an idiot you can be, or should I call it gullible?
-VR
Originally posted by SeitseI would like to see FMF address your posts. He seems to avoid you.
Yup, it takes cojones to be a gentleman and even more to recognize
when one has been a swine. When there aren't any, you get, well, 4
thread pages of a big fish in a small pond making excuses.
I hope such a waste of human did not spread those sad genes.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThat is completely untrue,
Its understood that a private mail is sent in confidentiality, that why its termed private.
A PM is "private" because it is sent privately.
The recipient can show it to whomever they like.
In real life if I receive a letter (in private) I can show it to anyone.
In real life if I am told something (in private) I can tell anyone else.
Only if a secret is preceded by "what I am about to tell you is confidential"
is there any requirement for me to keep it secret.
I hate people who tell me something then afterwards say "Don't tell anyone"
that is unfair.
Originally posted by wolfgang59Bullsh#t.
That is completely untrue,
A PM is "private" because it is [b]sent privately.
The recipient can show it to whomever they like.
In real life if I receive a letter (in private) I can show it to anyone.
In real life if I am told something (in private) I can tell anyone else.
Only if a secret is preceded by "what I am about to tell you is confide ...[text shortened]... ate people who tell me something then afterwards say "Don't tell anyone"
that is unfair.[/b]
When a person sends a 'private message', it is private.
Your efforts to dispute this are laughable, same as FMF.
