Originally posted by adramforallSo, let me get this straight. You feel a statement that says a natural thing like being pregnant can't be a crime (and in most places isn't a crime regardless of age) is "deeply, deeply disturbing" and yet don't feel that it's worth explaining?
If you need to ask then it is not worth explaining. Normal people will understand.
Are you having a bad day?
Originally posted by WheelyAre you sick?
So, let me get this straight. You feel a statement that says a natural thing like being pregnant can't be a crime (and in most places isn't a crime regardless of age) is "deeply, deeply disturbing" and yet don't feel that it's worth explaining?
Are you having a bad day?
Originally posted by WheelyI don't think it is worth argueing "moral issue V biological function", as the moral argument is always the most emotive.
Maybe but you'll have to explain what it is about the post that makes you feel I must be sick because I can't see it myself.
Of course it is morally wrong that a 9 year old be pregnant, especially if the father knew what he was doing. If his culture / legal system allowed for this to happen, then the edges get a bit hazy, but we can only judge by our own standards. . .that is normal.
As for the biological function, to argue about it is to argue semantics. It sounds like your trying to score points on the back of the miswording of the original post. You cant call a biological function wrong, just like you can't say its wrong that a guy shyts himself when he dies, but it sounds like you're trying to make a fool of the poster because he worded the post in a certain fashion. . .
Enjoy your points, not worth it in my book.
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Originally posted by huckleberryhoundThanks for the reasoned reply.
I don't think it is worth argueing "moral issue V biological function", as the moral argument is always the most emotive.
Of course it is morally wrong that a 9 year old be pregnant, especially if the father knew what he was doing. If his culture / legal system allowed for this to happen, then the edges get a bit hazy, but we can only judge by o e worded the post in a certain fashion. . .
Enjoy your points, not worth it in my book.
I don't think it was a point scoring exercise. One of the things that make me feel "deeply, deeply disturbed" is the current trend of flying off the handle and having a quick witch hunt on the back of no evidence at all. The original poster asked if a nine year old girl being pregnant is a crime (which legally it isn't). The next post immediately said it was with no actual knowledge of the facts of the case. I suggested that actually being pregnant can't possibly be a crime though having sex at that age can be if everyone in the society in which it happens agrees it is. We don't know where this girl lives.
Now, following on from the witch hunt theme, I find at least three people who then accuse me to a greater or lesser extent of being sick. Now, though none of them are brave enough to admit it, my guess is that they think I support having sex with minors. That's why I asked someone to explain the problem. There is nothing in my posts to suggest that I do and yet am on the receiving end of a witch hunt.
I find a society that can't discuss things without resorting to condemnations of "unclean" and subsequent burning at the stake to be in a pretty sorry state.
Originally posted by CrazyLilTingPlease. Is it a crime to be pregnant, whether you are 9 or 60? Obviously not. The circumstances surrounding the pregnancy are another issue. Perhaps boarman will divulge who the father is and so on so we can all work up some moral outrage as a prelude to a good Saturday night out.
May be. But it is better in my humble opinion that you consult a psychiatric doctor. ASAP.
I think the point we should be discussing here is if morality begins and ends in legality.
The question: is this acceptable or is this a crime is a false question especially because my answer would be somewhere in between. It's not acceptable, since we should be trying to avoid it, but it's not a crime since we'd only be adding insult to injury.
Originally posted by WheelySorry, but I can't see your point here. I didn't intend to be rude, but if you take a (few) minutes to think about the whole question, I'm sure you'll find it ridiculous.
Thanks for the reasoned reply.
I don't think it was a point scoring exercise. One of the things that make me feel "deeply, deeply disturbed" is the current trend of flying off the handle and having a quick witch hunt on the back of no evidence at all. The original poster asked if a nine year old girl being pregnant is a crime (which legally it isn't). T ...[text shortened]... ations of "unclean" and subsequent burning at the stake to be in a pretty sorry state.
Originally posted by PalynkaOk, bearing in mind that throughout most of history it has not been wrong for a nine year old to have sex if she is sexually mature, do we know why we are trying to avoid it now? Do we know why it is morally wrong for a nine year old to have sex?
I think the point we should be discussing here is if morality begins and ends in legality.
The question: is this acceptable or is this a crime is a false question especially because my answer would be somewhere in between. It's not acceptable, since we should be trying to avoid it, but it's not a crime since we'd only be adding insult to injury.
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Originally posted by WheelyWell, first and foremost because someone at the age of nine is incapable of taking care of a child by herself, except if it has an ADULT partner, which is clearly pedophilia.
Ok, bearing in mind that throughout most of history it has not been wrong for a nine year old to have sex if she is sexually mature, do we know why we are trying to avoid it now? Do we know why it is morally wrong for a nine year old to have sex?
Do you think pedophilia is morally wrong?
Edit: Note that sex is not tantamount to pregnancy and we are discussing the latter.