Originally posted by Palynkasomeyimes crazy words things wrong because of her bad english. . . or should i say her excellent english is sometimes not good enough to hold debates like these without misunderstandings . . .that is the problem with international forums like this. It is not the first time crazys intentions were different from the interpretation of her posts.
Yet I think you're either being rude or not trying to see his point.
Originally posted by huckleberryhoundI understand, since English is foreign to me as well. But if that is the case then she still shouldn't call his views ridiculous.
someyimes crazy words things wrong because of her bad english. . . or should i say her excellent english is sometimes not good enough to hold debates like these without misunderstandings . . .that is the problem with international forums like this. It is not the first time crazys intentions were different from the interpretation of her posts.
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Originally posted by huckleberryhoundThat's why I didn't respond to CrazyLilTing. I checked the profile and understood that my English can sometimes be a bit badly written resulting in rather convoluted sentences not easily followed at times 🙂
someyimes crazy words things wrong because of her bad english. . . or should i say her excellent english is sometimes not good enough to hold debates like these without misunderstandings . . .that is the problem with international forums like this. It is not the first time crazys intentions were different from the interpretation of her posts.
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Originally posted by Palynkathat is as much her right, as it is yours or mine.
I understand, since English is foreign to me as well. But if that is the case then she still shouldn't call his views ridiculous.
I still believe wheely's argument sounds like petty point scoring, although i believe in India it is normal for 9 year olds to marry.
It would take the original poster to reveal the intentions/details of the post to clear the confusion a bit.
Originally posted by huckleberryhoundMaybe, but there are interesting questions regarding this topic. I don't really care if we deviate a bit from the original question.
that is as much her right, as it is yours or mine.
I still believe wheely's argument is petty point scoring, although i believe in India it is normal for 9 year olds to marry.
It would take the original poster to reveal the intentions/details of the post to clear the confusion a bit.
Wheely: Did you see my post at the end of page 2?
What is your opinion...could Jesus have been a good chess player? He was a jew, first of all, and jews have always been on top of the ranking lists in chess, and secondly he was the son of god (some claim), so maybe he could have been assisted by his father in finding the best possible moves...
Originally posted by PalynkaNo Paly, I'm not being rude (at least wasn't my intention).
Yet I think you're either being rude or not trying to see his point.
My real intention may be misuderstood.
I'm trying that people take a little time to think before posting.
I can't suport an opinion without a background. We can chat for hours within the frame of hypotetical cases, and I'm sure we'll not be able to reach a valid conclusion.
I beg pardon if my previous posts sound ofensive.
- J
Originally posted by boarmanIn our society which overly venerates youth, we consider the entire situation morally wrong. Of course, we're not equally aghast at the trailer-trash "parenting" antics of some supposed adults, but that's another story.
A girl of nine has baby .
Is this acceptable or is this a crime.
In this situation, everything depends on the variables, i.e., the society in which this occurred, the particulars of the pregnancy and the girl herself. Without that information, we're hard-pressed to make an informed judgment.
Originally posted by PalynkaI take the point about being incapable of raising a child. In the past, family units stayed together and the whole family would raise a child. I guess it was less of a problem then if your nine year old daughter got pregnant.
Well, first and foremost because someone at the age of nine is incapable of taking care of a child by herself, except if it has an ADULT partner, which is clearly pedophilia.
Do you think pedophilia is morally wrong?
Edit: Note that sex is not tantamount to pregnancy and we are discussing the latter.
OK, that's a practical point against it but we were talking morally.
I don't know if I think paedephillia is wrong. Personally I don't understand how anyone can find a young child in any way sexually attractive but some people do. If a nine year old girl or boy is mature enough to make their own minds up and are sexually mature, can we say it is actually wrong for them to do it?
If a thirty year old women has sex with an eleven year old boy when both know what they are doing, is that wrong? I'm not sure.
If the crime is coercing someone into sex or forcing them into sex then clearly, in my view, that is wrong. However, if two people are actually mature enough I'm not sure I could say it would be wrong for them to have sex.
Originally posted by FreakyKBHAgreed, though some people did. I find that scary.
In our society which overly venerates youth, we consider the entire situation morally wrong. Of course, we're not equally aghast at the trailer-trash "parenting" antics of some supposed adults, but that's another story.
In this situation, everything depends on the variables, i.e., the society in which this occurred, the particulars of the pregnancy and ...[text shortened]... e girl herself. Without that information, we're hard-pressed to make an informed judgment.
Originally posted by CrazyLilTingNo offense taken CrazyLilTing. However, it sounded to me like you had an opinion without any supporting evidence. I guess I reacted to the reaction 🙂
No Paly, I'm not being rude (at least wasn't my intention).
My real intention may be misuderstood.
I'm trying that people take a little time to think before posting.
I can't suport an opinion without a background. We can chat for hours within the frame of hypotetical cases, and I'm sure we'll not be able to reach a valid conclusion.
I beg pardon if my previous posts sound ofensive.
- J
Originally posted by Wheelyso you say that a 30 year old having sex with a consenting 11 year old is a grey area, now i think you're sick aswell.
I take the point about being incapable of raising a child. In the past, family units stayed together and the whole family would raise a child. I guess it was less of a problem then if your nine year old daughter got pregnant.
OK, that's a practical point against it but we were talking morally.
I don't know if I think paedephillia is wrong. Personally ...[text shortened]... are actually mature enough I'm not sure I could say it would be wrong for them to have sex.
Sorry about that bro, but thats just wrong.
Originally posted by huckleberryhoundThen please tell me why it is wrong. I'm more than willing to be converted on this issue.
so you say that a 30 year old having sex with a consenting 11 year old is a grey area, now i think you're sick aswell.
Sorry about that bro, but thats just wrong.
To recap: The issue is if an eleven year old boy who is mentally and sexually mature has sex with a thirty year old women and nobody has been coerced into anything, is it, at least a grey area.