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There are almost as many scam warnings as there are scams.

But I've seen these two real-life situations:
A near-blind lady in her 80s going without heating, so that she could afford to send money to snail-mail lottery winning scams, year after year. She wants it to be true so badly that she can't think straight.

A poorly-educated family who were given an internet connection and computer by a welfare group to assist in the children's education. They received a Nigerian scam email. It resulted in a member of the family going to Nigeria on the strength of a large credit-card borrowing, this after the staff of two banks separately advised them it was a scam. They just couldn't believe such a convincing story could be a scam. Now the family is back together (luckily worse didn't occur, the scammers only wanted their money) and struggling to pay off a $13000 credit card debt out of a minimum wage.

How do you protect people without making them totally paranoid?

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Originally posted by MissOleum
There are almost as many scam warnings as there are scams.

But I've seen these two real-life situations:
A near-blind lady in her 80s going without heating, so that she could afford to send money to snail-mail lottery winning scams, year after year. She wants it to be true so badly that she can't think straight.

A poorly-educated family who ...[text shortened]... t out of a minimum wage.

How do you protect people without making them totally paranoid?
Most of the poverty and adverse situations people find themselves in is the result of stupidity or low IQ and human greed. There is nothing you can do to help such people unless you plan to monitor them 24hrs a day.

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It's not just illegal scams - the people who spend their last dollar on lottery tickets or poker machines really believe that the only way they can get out of their awful situations is to win something - talk to the people in retail gambling environments. If people have no chance of a better life, they have no hope. Everyone needs hope, just to keep their sanity.

But I guess you're right - you can't solve it for everybody.

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Originally posted by MissOleum
There are almost as many scam warnings as there are scams.

But I've seen these two real-life situations:
A near-blind lady in her 80s going without heating, so that she could afford to send money to snail-mail lottery winning scams, year after year. She wants it to be true so badly that she can't think straight.

A poorly-educated family who ...[text shortened]... t out of a minimum wage.

How do you protect people without making them totally paranoid?
Okay. Sad but true, that false hope always reigns supreme

when somebody's vocabulary is missing the small word 'no'.

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This week a guy in the uk opened a court case against a bookmaker to claim back the £2million he'd lost to them. His argument being that they should've done more to stop him gambling.

I'm going to look into a similar case against a major supermarket chain, on the grounds they should've done more to stop me buying food.

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You just can't help some people. Sometimes you have to let it go and be there to help pick up the peices. Like the lady who won't leave her husband becasue he loves her, even though he beats her. There's no telling her.

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Originally posted by rhb
This week a guy in the uk opened a court case against a bookmaker to claim back the £2million he'd lost to them. His argument being that they should've done more to stop him gambling.

I'm going to look into a similar case against a major supermarket chain, on the grounds they should've done more to stop me buying food.
some dry-machine (for laundry)-company was forced to put in the manual that u cant dry pets in it, since some granny killed her dog/cat, i dunno in it...
some ppl...

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Originally posted by rhb
This week a guy in the uk opened a court case against a bookmaker to claim back the £2million he'd lost to them. His argument being that they should've done more to stop him gambling.

I'm going to look into a similar case against a major supermarket chain, on the grounds they should've done more to stop me buying food.
To be fair, he had an arrangement with the bookies to not accept his bets.

He changed his online username but they could see it was his bank account still I think.


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Originally posted by Rajk999
Most of the poverty and adverse situations people find themselves in is the result of stupidity or low IQ and human greed. There is nothing you can do to help such people unless you plan to monitor them 24hrs a day.
What amazes me is that people actually think that thay have won in a foreign lottery knowing that they didn't enter to win in the first place.

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Originally posted by rhb
This week a guy in the uk opened a court case against a bookmaker to claim back the £2million he'd lost to them. His argument being that they should've done more to stop him gambling.

I'm going to look into a similar case against a major supermarket chain, on the grounds they should've done more to stop me buying food.
He had actually asked for volantary exclusion. Which means they should never had accepted his bets. So he has a case.

If he walked into a bookmakers with cash there is little they can do but this was a credit account.

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Originally posted by MissOleum
There are almost as many scam warnings as there are scams.

But I've seen these two real-life situations:
A near-blind lady in her 80s going without heating, so that she could afford to send money to snail-mail lottery winning scams, year after year. She wants it to be true so badly that she can't think straight.

A poorly-educated family who ...[text shortened]... t out of a minimum wage.

How do you protect people without making them totally paranoid?
I think some people can be helped. Those on income support (ie. Not working) should only get cash left after all of their bills and food have been paid.

If their rent, electric, gas etc were paid by the agency paying them and a weekly budget available at a local food retailer any sums left can be given in cash.

Far too many get the money and gamble it or spend it on booze/drugs.

Yes I know it's a 'nanny state' senario but some people cannot live normal lives. Even those with kids live that way.

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Originally posted by MissOleum
There are almost as many scam warnings as there are scams.

But I've seen these two real-life situations:
A near-blind lady in her 80s going without heating, so that she could afford to send money to snail-mail lottery winning scams, year after year. She wants it to be true so badly that she can't think straight.

A poorly-educated family who ...[text shortened]... t out of a minimum wage.

How do you protect people without making them totally paranoid?
You don't. It's called natural selection.

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