Originally posted by AThousandYoungCommodore Perry is a bit of a stretch!
I'm thinking of Commodore Matthew Perry and WWII. I am not a Mongol, so that one doesn't count. I don't know what the other one is.
He fired some cannons & they gave trading rights (although some people (from near where l used to live) did try to blow up one of the ships. The two are both attempted Mongol invasions - both thwarted primarily by weather - hence the expression Tsunami or divine wind.
WW2 was the loss - the 1905 defeat of the "superior"Russian force as well as the numerous forays into China & Korea would count as wins as well.
Originally posted by nook7You mean Kamikaze, not Tsunami.
Commodore Perry is a bit of a stretch!
He fired some cannons & they gave trading rights (although some people (from near where l used to live) did try to blow up one of the ships. The two are both attempted Mongol invasions - both thwarted primarily by weather - hence the expression Tsunami or divine wind.
WW2 was the loss - the 1905 defeat of the "superior"Russian force as well as the numerous forays into China & Korea would count as wins as well.