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Originally posted by eagles54
You just can't admit you are wrong, can you? You are a pathetic "leader." A smart general looks beyond his own petty agitations and does what's best for his men.
No One's secret identity is Don Rumsfeld!

I should have seen it before! 😀

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Originally posted by no1marauder
Wrong about what, you twit? What exact aid could realms halfway across the board give each other? 🙄

You're a childish nutcase. And you stink at these games; go back to something easier like marbles.
Let's see...I'm an idiot, a liar, a dimwit, a twit.

And I'm a childish nutcase? You're not doing very well to make your case a convincing one. Maybe you could go to school to learn how to do that. 😉

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Originally posted by no1marauder
What exact aid could realms halfway across the board give each other? 🙄
You really lack imagination, on top of any ability to lead your allies anywhere but to their impending dooms.

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Originally posted by eagles54
You really lack imagination, on top of any ability to lead your allies anywhere but to their impending dooms.
They make their own decisions, unlike you. And I see you have no answer to the question except your usual childish stammering. Pathetic.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
They make their own decisions, unlike you. And I see you have no answer to the question except your usual childish stammering. Pathetic.
Speaking of answering questions that you've avoided, where is your proof that I have "spread falsehoods?"

As I told you before, and I reiterate now, put up or STFU.

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As an aside, you really need to work on your goad. Not only is it transparent and easily brushed away, but others try to emulate your style. It fails miserably for them as well, Ryuzoji.

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Originally posted by eagles54
As an aside, you really need to work on your goad. Not only is it transparent and easily brushed away, but others try to emulate your style. It fails miserably for them as well, Ryuzoji.
It is disturbing to see Otomo turn into Mini-Me. Maybe he hasn't realised it yet.

Yes, Otomo, you should have been more diplomatically active. Your ignoring my messages led me to believe that you were in cahoots with the uncouth Ryuzoji and therefore a legitimate enemy, which is why I encouraged Hosokawa to attack you, which is how the whole thing started, I believe.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
soooooooooooooooo
Now that's the sort of goading that took the MD thread close to 5000 pages!

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Originally posted by no1marauder
Amako was at war with Mori and Hokosawa was at war with Otomo. And you're still not on Kyushu what 6 turns after entering that war? Ito would have had to face me alone and I was Royalty with at least equal Gold Province value. There wouldn't have been much left if and when you got there. But that would have suited you fine; Ito virtually destroyed and Kyushu divided.
Scary Ryuzoji.

Shikoku is separated from Kyushu in case you hadn't noticed. If Ito had gone along with me, I'd have taken over one of his cities or towns in much the same way I took over Sanuki, along with a Han, and started building. Hosokawa could have coped with Otomo on his own (it was when Ito started getting involved that I decided to act). So it would have been you against Ito and Uesugi. Well, so much for might-have-beens!

You continue to underestimate the value of diplomacy. If you talk nicely and sensibly to people you can get them to listen to you, even if they are all the way across the board, and especially since this is an all-RHP game.

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Now that's the sort of goading that took the MD thread close to 5000 pages!
It's also "repeated posting of the same material ('o'😉". Ts ts ts.

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Scary Ryuzoji.

Shikoku is separated from Kyushu in case you hadn't noticed. If Ito had gone along with me, I'd have taken over one of his cities or towns in much the same way I took over Sanuki, along with a Han, and started building. Hosokawa could have coped with Otomo on his own (it was when Ito started getting involved that I decided to act). S ...[text shortened]... , even if they are all the way across the board, and especially since this is an all-RHP game.
Your BS is tiresome. Hokosawa only agreed to give you his capital and major building center when he was on the very verge of defeat, but Ito would have just given you a major build center (he only has 2 and one wasn't taken until turn 6) right off the bat? And you never had a unit anywhere near a position to take over such a province. By turn 9, Ito was my vassal, so your "what might have been" is the sheerest of fantasy.

Your starting to sound like suzianne in MD; of course, I engage in diplomacy all the time. What is ridiculous is the new found claim by you and the Monk that somehow, someway any diplomacy I might have done would have avoided the result that Honshu would be united under two allied groups by turn 10. That is your and the Monk's accomplishment (aided by the lack of ambition of your allies) and no matter how nice I talked to anybody, I had no leverage to prevent it.

EDIT: On turn 8, Hosokawa ceded you Sanuki; there are no Ito forces on or/near Shikoku. More falsehoods.

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Originally posted by eagles54
As an aside, you really need to work on your goad. Not only is it transparent and easily brushed away, but others try to emulate your style. It fails miserably for them as well, Ryuzoji.
Are you going to send me whiny PM's like you did in MD until I had to put you on my "banned" or whatever list? You're a pathetic failure in the games AND as a human being.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
Your BS is tiresome. Hokosawa only agreed to give you his capital and major building center when he was on the very verge of defeat, but Ito would have just given you a major build center (he only has 2 and one wasn't taken until turn 6) right off the bat? /// Your starting to sound like suzianne in MD; of course, I engage in diplomacy all the tim ...[text shortened]... turn 8, Hosokawa ceded you Sanuki; there are no Ito forces on or/near Shikoku. More falsehoods.
Who said anything about right off the bat--everybody understands the importance of timing///Sure you engage in diplomacy, just not with the right people///Because I asked Ito to get them off (they were there before that: look at turn 5 and 6).

Ito had three build centres at that stage: Hyuga, Kushima and Sendai. Any one of them would have done nicely.

Anything else you want to rave about?

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Who said anything about right off the bat--everybody understands the importance of timing///Sure you engage in diplomacy, just not with the right people///Because I asked Ito to get them off (they were there before that: look at turn 5 and 6).

Ito had three build centres at that stage: Hyuga, Kushima and Sendai. Any one of them would have done nicely.

Anything else you want to rave about?
What a clown you are; Ito was still at war with the Shimazu on turn 6, but he was supposed to go to war with the Ryuzoji, too? Again you have no units anywhere near Ito's territory. You would have needed a major build center to make a difference, not merely a village with a small capability. And your building capability was quite limited at that time AND you were engaged in other wars on Honshu.

In short, you're full of it; if Ito had declared war against the Ryuzoji in turns 6-8 he would have faced a superior foe alone and you wouldn't have been able to send any support at all. You might check the seas around Kyushu; they were dominated by my ally and vassal the Otomo. So all the Ito would have done is serve your interest, not their own.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
In short, you're full of it; if Ito had declared war against the Ryuzoji in turns 6-8 he would have faced a superior foe alone and you wouldn't have been able to send any support at all. You might check the seas around Kyushu; they were dominated by my ally and vassal the Otomo. So all the Ito would have done is serve your interest, not their own.
Gee, Ito was at war with Shimazu, who was disappearing at lightning speed around the bend. How challenging to be at war with more than one enemy. It would have been a question of timing, as I said.

The seas around Shikoku were also dominated by Otomo when I arrived in Sanuki. It came as a bit of a surprise, as I recall.

Have a nice day now.

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