Shooting tragedy

Originally posted by ChessPraxis
http://www.examiner.com/article/27-year-old-teacher-victoria-soto-died-shielding-students-with-her-own-body

There should be some official recognition for that poor teacher
and the other librarian who guided 18 other students to safety.

Originally posted by Busygirl
There is no freedom of expression if the expression will cause harm. You can't yell "fire" in a crowded movie theater for this reason (unless there is an actual fire, of course). Is it not obvious that since the proliferation of graphically detailed video games depicting horrific acts of violence we have seen a rise in senseless acts of violence within our ...[text shortened]... anger in these products, so why aren't we insisting that they be removed from the market?

I need proof of a rise in violent crime linked to video games. I don't accept it as obvious.

I see a rise in media coverage of violence. It is much easier to get information about crimes now.

The burden of proof is on those who wish to limit expression.

Originally posted by SwissGambit
I need proof of a rise in violent crime linked to video games. I don't accept it as obvious.

I see a rise in media coverage of violence. It is much easier to get information about crimes now.

The burden of proof is on those who wish to limit expression.

its not so much empirical evidence of a link, the number of violent games outstrip any
other format by 10 to 1.

Originally posted by Hand of Hecate
Eliminate guns and you'll still see humans killing humans. We've become quiet good at it over 50,000 years of practice.

Nonsense. It was a peaceful utopia before guns came on the scene.

Originally posted by ChessPraxis

Is our very best thinking helpless here?

Originally posted by whodey
Nonsense. It was a peaceful utopia before guns came on the scene.

You parody yourself.

Originally posted by Woodgie
It was the sword a few hundred years ago.

While greed exists, so will hate.

Your absolutely correct about greed, people rob,lie,cheat,murder,kidnap ,house break ,shop-lift ,fall out with loved ones and family,stitch up work mates all over money . Put guns amongst that lot and ,....i dont have to tell you the outcome .

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
its not so much empirical evidence of a link, the number of violent games outstrip any
other format by 10 to 1.

Says who? And if so, how is that evidence of a link to real violence?

Originally posted by apathist
Is our very best thinking helpless here?

What are you quoting here pal?

Originally posted by SwissGambit
I need proof of a rise in violent crime linked to video games. I don't accept it as obvious.

I see a rise in media coverage of violence. It is much easier to get information about crimes now.

''The burden of proof is on those who wish to limit expression.''

For your convenience:
Here are some scholarly archived examples of the 'measured' influences that modern society experiences due to the media.. that's tv, movie's, video games etc...'violent video games most certainly 'stimulate' aggressive behaviour in children and young adults'...
http://pss.sagepub.com/content/12/5/353.short

Before the source is questioned, Psychological Science Online was formerly known as the American Psychological Society, it is a respected professional body of international repute...

Originally posted by RevRSleeker
For your convenience:
Here are some scholarly archived examples of the 'measured' influences that modern society experiences due to the media.. that's tv, movie's, video games etc...'violent video games most certainly 'stimulate' aggressive behaviour in children and young adults'...
http://pss.sagepub.com/content/12/5/353.short

Before the source is ...[text shortened]... an Psychological Society, it is a respected professional body of international repute...

Until society gets it's crap together they might be described as training videos, Oh you better ban news of what is actually going on in the world, cos that can "'stimulate' aggressive behavior in children and young adults" too.

Originally posted by RevRSleeker
For your convenience:
Here are some scholarly archived examples of the 'measured' influences that modern society experiences due to the media.. that's tv, movie's, video games etc...'violent video games most certainly 'stimulate' aggressive behaviour in children and young adults'...
http://pss.sagepub.com/content/12/5/353.short

Before the source is ...[text shortened]... an Psychological Society, it is a respected professional body of international repute...

Wow, they want $35 for that. Pity; I was interested in reading it.

Originally posted by SwissGambit
Wow, they want $35 for that. Pity; I was interested in reading it.

Rob your piggy bank! 😛 😉

Originally posted by SwissGambit
Wow, they want $35 for that. Pity; I was interested in reading it.

Apologies, I didn't realise, my wife has a subscription and it's obviously logged in...
I'm sure it's available elsewhere though..."Killing Spree": 'Exploring the Connection Between Competitive Game Play and Aggressive Cognition' had me hooked....until they started to get a bit 'technical' 😉

Originally posted by kevcvs57
Until society gets it's crap together they might be described as training videos, Oh you better ban news of what is actually going on in the world, cos that can "'stimulate' aggressive behavior in children and young adults" too.

I think that it's a matter of the degrees to which all manner of 'things' are measured..
but yes, I've implied it myself, and I'm sure someone, somewhere, would argue your point.. and with no doubt 'some' success..