Quite frequently, I have seen this theme in many threads....
Very frequently it is men answering the query. Some, like Shav do a good job, others are obviously clueless.
I though it was time for the girls to weigh in on the topic.
Go rent Don Juan de Marco(Johnny Dep, Marlon Brando, Faye Dunaway). I know this is a chick flick and it will be not the film you would choose...be strong, be brave....
On one of our "chick nights" about 8 of my female friends and I had gathered to watch this film....15 minutes into the film every last one of us had decided referring to the charater of Don Juan, "Oh, yeah, I'd do him, in a heartbeat." This seems to be a response the males here have desired.......
Despite the quick response of my friends and myself: PLEASE. Watch the whole movie.....You will learn a lot.
Would other girls/women like to add their suggestions or guidelines?
Originally posted by AynatBut Don Juan is Jonny Depp, not some internet chess geek.
Quite frequently, I have seen this theme in many threads....
Very frequently it is men answering the query. Some, like Shav do a good job, others are obviously clueless.
I though it was time for the girls to weigh in on the topic.
Go rent Don Juan de Marco(Johnny Dep, Marlon Brando, Faye Dunaway). I know this is a chick flick and it will be not the fi ...[text shortened]... ...You will learn a lot.
Would other girls/women like to add their suggestions or guidelines?
Originally posted by Aynat.....Come on now.... I'm no Johnny Depp but even I could tell ya cuteness is definitely is a factor.... Maybe that state of mind goes away at a certain age, since I'm still dating teenagers, but don't tease me with these ideas that I don't have to waste my precious money on gel every damn two months...
No, no.....it isn't about cute/not cute, it is about romance, the unexpected and the approach, the confidence....the technique....
Originally posted by seraphimvultureOf course, cute is a factor but it is not the most important.....
.....Come on now.... I'm no Johnny Depp but even I could tell ya cuteness is definitely is a factor.... Maybe that state of mind goes away at a certain age, since I'm still dating teenagers, but don't tease me with these ideas that I don't have to waste my precious money on gel every damn two months...
Cute and a jerk means any girl worth having is heading the other direction....
But, cute is not everything. A guy who treats you as if you are wonderful is amazingly sexy....
Geeks have their own charm as well...my first boyfriend was a total geek. However, for my 16th birthday he planted a pink rose for me outside my bedroom window (he snuck around in the middle of the night to do it). The rose was called, "First Love" and the note tied to the bush said, "So, You will always have roses."
Universal female response *big sigh*, "Ahhh, what a great guy! You are SO lucky." Several of my girlfriends put the moves on him but he was a great guy!
Originally posted by AynatI'm so gunna get ripped a new one for this.... awwwghhh why can't I keep my mouth shut.... gah. You're saying that girls care more about inner beauty than cuteness.... now, that's obviously the mentality of a very well-rounded person, and that's a compliment to you and anyone who shares that mentality, but I can think of four girls right now off the top of my head who have completely blown off guys just based on their looks. One of them is a real b**ch, friend of mine though, she's 22 and about a month ago broke up with a boyfriend that was basically completely whipped, the kid was like Mr.Smithers in The Simpsons for god sakes, always doing stupid little things she asked him to do, but yeah she broke up with him for this spanish guy she's now dating who's a freakin' jerk, a big jerk, I really don't like him, but she doesn't care, 'cause he's "hot". That's just one example I could give you of a girl going for the hot guy with gel in his hair... and I think it's just based on the fact that some girls can be just as shallow as guys can be. I'm not completely trying to void your statement though, what you're saying makes a lot of sense, but I'm just saying to some girls if the guy isn't attractive then he can shove his rose up his nose.
Of course, cute is a factor but it is not the most important.....
Cute and a jerk means any girl worth having is heading the other direction....
But, cute is not everything. A guy who treats you as if you are wonderful is amazingly sexy....
Geeks have their own charm as well...my first boyfriend was a total geek. However, for my 16th birthday he plant ...[text shortened]... You are SO lucky." Several of my girlfriends put the moves on him but he was a great guy!
-Internet Chess Geek
Originally posted by AynatCute/Charm is what gets you in the door, it's the rest of the stuff that keeps you there.
Of course, cute is a factor but it is not the most important.....
Cute and a jerk means any girl worth having is heading the other direction....
But, cute is not everything. A guy who treats you as if you are wonderful is amazingly sexy....
Geeks have their own charm as well...my first boyfriend was a total geek. However, for my 16th birthday he plant ...[text shortened]... You are SO lucky." Several of my girlfriends put the moves on him but he was a great guy!
This doesn't work out to well for someone like me. Uncute, no charm, but capable of being romantic/sweet.
Keep in mind, when a guy approaches a girl, she has already made desisions about him before he has even said a word. (The same goes vise-versa as well by the way) A girl will look at his physique, the way he walks, his face, and a whole assortment of other things. This is what seperates guys chances.
You tell me, a 180 pound guy, not huge, but clearly toned in both the arms and the stomach approaches you with confidence. You're going to be interested.
Now, a 240 pound guy approaches. He has a big gut, and approaches cautiously. You're going to try to get him to leave you alone as soon as possible.
I suppose my entire point is that cute is what matters in the beginning, and romance is what matters later.
-Fatty
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I think this debate always breeds misunderstanding. I reckon the reality is: being physically attractive is a neccessity, inner beauty/personality is also required by most, and will be the deciding factor in a choice between two guys of the same "hotness'.
In short, girls are very much like guys. The difference is, guys can't be arsed with pretending looks aren't important.
Originally posted by Fat mans revengeI agree
Cute/Charm is what gets you in the door, it's the rest of the stuff that keeps you there.
This doesn't work out to well for someone like me. Uncute, no charm, but capable of being romantic/sweet.
Keep in mind, when a guy approaches a girl, she has already made desisions about him before he has even said a word. (The same goes vise-versa as ...[text shortened]... oint is that cute is what matters in the beginning, and romance is what matters later.
-Fatty
Originally posted by PullhardWe're not as shallow as we seem.
I think this debate always breeds misunderstanding. I reckon the reality is: being physically attractive is a neccessity, inner beauty/personality is also required by most, and will be the deciding factor in a choice between two guys of the same "hotness'.
In short, girls are very much like guys. The difference is, guys can't be arsed with pretending looks aren't important.
See, what we're supposed to find attractive (without the brainwashing of the media) instinctively is a healthy specimen. Someone who will be healthy enough to have lots of babies for us. So, one of the things that signifies a healthy specimen is symmetry of face (dunno why? ), not being obese, being fit, clear skin, etc.
So to make my point, we're not being shallow at all. We're just more concerned with the continuation of the species than females. Which means that we're much more selfless than females.
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Originally posted by RagnorakVery true. That's also supposed to be why women would love a man with a huge... um, organ, since instincts originally told them eons ago that that would impregnate them faster. 🙂
We're not as shallow as we seem.
See, what we're supposed to find attractive (without the brainwashing of the media) instinctively is a healthy specimen. Someone who will be healthy enough to have lots of babies for us. So, one of the things that signifies a healthy specimen is symmetry of face (dunno why? ), not being obese, being fit, clear skin, ...[text shortened]... on of the species than females. Which means that we're much more selfless than females.
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Originally posted by seraphimvultureLook, people are people. Many of them have really screwed up values. Total jerk or completely whipped are both bad....that girl is in for a world of hurt, if she can't be healthy in relationships.
I'm so gunna get ripped a new one for this.... awwwghhh why can't I keep my mouth shut.... gah. You're saying that girls care more about inner beauty than cuteness.... now, that's obviously the mentality of a very well-rounded p ...[text shortened]... then he can shove his rose up his nose.
-Internet Chess Geek
Do you want to be treated well? Or badly?
I notice looks but I notice how I am spoken to, how does he speak to others, how does he talks about others. Do his words and his actions match? Is his focus and attention on me or is he checking out every other female that passes by?
I like thoughtful men who can be at a bit romantic. I like to get my way once in a while....and I let him have his way...once in a while...
Ask your other friends who are girls.....what do they think?
BTW, I came across an interesting study which stated that women who were happy in their relationship perceived their partners to be more attractive than others did. AND, That women who were sexually happy with their relationship perceived their partners to be very good lovers who happened to be quite well endowed.....although no empirical evidence was gathered on the last two points......
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Originally posted by Fat mans revengeYou aren't the only chubby one here Fatty...lol
Cute/Charm is what gets you in the door, it's the rest of the stuff that keeps you there.
This doesn't work out to well for someone like me. Uncute, no charm, but capable of being romantic/sweet.
Keep in mind, when a guy a ...[text shortened]... ers in the beginning, and romance is what matters later.
-Fatty
I've always had a lot of girl mates.. mostly younger ladies.. we hang out and gossip etc.. it's a trust thing since before I got married and had one of my girl mates as the Best Woman!!!
Just have a little confidence (not arrogance or desperation lol). Many women love larger men. Big guys are so grateful for the affection that they show a lot more care and attention to detail to treat the lady properly. They also know that they don't have to worry about minor imperfection in their own appearance.
Guys should have girl mates they can mutually depend on for advice support and movies etc etc. Romance happens when you aren't looking for it.