Originally posted by Raven69I wasn't talking about his thoughts about a specific film, but about his thoughts about putting in elaborate fighting scenes on the cost of scenes he considered to be essential. Having seen the first and second film, I find it difficult to see how that would not apply to them, though.
No one should assume what Tolkien would have thought of the film, as none of us are him, we can not know for sure what his reaction would have been.
Originally posted by Raven69Raven, watch an interview with Tolkien or read his letters instead of spending time watching Peter Jackson on the movie extra's stating how much of a fan he is. You will see they do not share the same vision... and it's Tolkien's book after all. 🙂
No one should assume what Tolkien would have thought of the film, as none of us are him, we can not know for sure what his reaction would have been.
If we can not assume what Tolkien would have thought, Peter Jackson like hell shouldn't have assumed that and let the good book be read rather then watched in a strongly watered down version. Not every book should be made in a movie!!! 🙂
Originally posted by Raven69Well, the reason I brought up the issue of Faramir was because it creates a plot hole that extends into Return of the King and conflicts with events that happened back in Fellowship, as I´ve already said. Of course they couldn´t put everything into the films just as they were in the book - that would have made things worse - but they could have done a better job of checking that what they were changing didn´t have negative effects on plot, continuity and character development. What´s worse, Faramir was only the tip of the iceberg.
Exactly! People have to realize that a movie is a completely different media than a book. You can't get exactly the same "feel" from watching the movie as you do from reading the book. Basically, you can sit there and nit-pick at every small detail like Faramir not letting Frodo go right away, or there being no elf-singing scenes, etc, or you can just enjoy the movie for what it is...
Originally posted by Duke of BrabantI did. And like I said before, the movie is a different media from the book, if there were no fighting scenes the movie would be too slow. You can not make a movie have exactly the same feel as a 500 page book.
Raven, watch an interview with Tolkien or read his letters instead of spending time watching Peter Jackson on the movie extra's stating how much of a fan he is. You will see they do not share the same vision... and it's Tolkien's book after all. 🙂
If we can not assume what Tolkien would have thought, Peter Jackson like hell shouldn't have assume ...[text shortened]... watched in a strongly watered down version. Not every book should be made in a movie!!! 🙂
Well, most people enjoyed it, so the decision to make it into a movie seems like a good one. Some people are just impossible to please...😛
I've been a Lord of the Rings fan since first being introduced to the stories in the late 60's. I have read LOTR some 35 times, including the Hobbit, Silmarillion, and the other History of Middle Earth books.
I think Peter Jackson did an incredible job of turning the books into film. I'm aware that there were many alterations to the original story as written by Tolkien. Personally, I think the movies should never have been made. The story should have remained in print only. However, since it has been made, I think PJ did a great job of at least bringing the characters to life and giving us a visual interpretation.
There is no way that a story that Tolkein spent 50 years of his life creating can be accurately transcribed into film. I keep imagining all the young people that will never read the books because they can watch the movie instead. What a loss. I keep thinking about those who will never read the books to learn that the entire LOTR story is only a tiny bit at the end of the actual story.
For another great bit of story telling, look for the Lays of Belleriand in the History of Middle Earth series. It has the evolution of the tale of Beren and Tinuviel, all told in rhyme and running some 4000 lines long. It is an incredible bit of writing and wordplay.
I don't much care who directs The Hobbit, but I hope they at least follow closely the character sets created in the LOTR movies. It would be good to at least have some common threads to connect the two stories.
Putz
Originally posted by Raven69Guys,guys.....dont forget "Braindead"😏
Why? You'll just end up losing again....
PJ loved the books hardcore. Ever seen an interview with him...? I can't think of any other movies PJ did that "blew my mind" but why on Earth would that matter?? The fact that he did not make any other fantastic movies does not take away from the greatness that was LotR.
