Originally posted by Nyxieno, i think it was generally recognised as being a loser - but you attacked it the most effectively, i think.
I was personally responsible for crushing that idea?
I'm outspoken on many occasions, but I can't even start here so it's better I just hold my tongue. Suffice it to say that rules and regulations based on morals that come at the exspense of human life is appalling to me.
Originally posted by dfm65The article does not say that they were trained to do this - only that teams were sent to Israel where "they learned a terrible truth" - there is no indication of any training in this article whatsoever.
actually, they have been so trained:
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/050723/325/fo176.html
the reason they were trained in how to deal with suicide bombers is because those charged with protecting the populace from such foresaw that they might need such training one day. that day has come.
Originally posted by DeepThoughtthe word 'training' is not used, but they went to Israel, learnt how to deal with suicide bombers (the terrible truth - the only way is to shoot them in the head), and on Friday applied this knowledge to the situation at hand. sounds like training to me.
The article does not say that they were trained to do this - only that teams were sent to Israel where "they learned a terrible truth" - there is no indication of any training in this article whatsoever.
Originally posted by dfm65Except for the small detail that they weren't dealing with a suicide bomber at all, but a guy who had committed no crime.
the word 'training' is not used, but they went to Israel, learnt how to deal with suicide bombers (the terrible truth - the only way is to shoot them in the head), and on Friday applied this knowledge to the situation at hand. sounds like training to me.
Originally posted by dfm65This isn't training it's fact finding missions.
the word 'training' is not used, but they went to Israel, learnt how to deal with suicide bombers (the terrible truth - the only way is to shoot them in the head), and on Friday applied this knowledge to the situation at hand. sounds like training to me.
Originally posted by xsI would assume that a logical way to proceed in life is to assume that most people are NOT suicide bombers since that seems to be statistically true. Apparently their training was flawed in some way as an innocent man was killed, although I await the official investigation's determination of what the facts were before I give an ultimate opinion. So far, there have been contradictory eyewitness accounts and the police have made at least one significant change in their original story; so there really isn't enough unbiased info to make a judgment.
Well why didn't you tell them that before they shot him.
Originally posted by DeepThoughtYou feel more threatened by your own police than the terrorists?
I am not the victim of any aftershock. Frankly I was more traumatised by the September the 11th attack and that is because I made the mistake of listening to the media about it for too long. I am lucky enough to work from home and therefore have relatively little chance of being killed by a terrorist bomb in the underground since they seem to go for ru ...[text shortened]... e senior officers and planners who thought that a "shoot to kill" policy would be a good idea.
They have won.
Originally posted by dfm65Fact finding missions are small teams who find out how things are done elsewhere to see if lessons can be learned. They find some facts. Training is something that is undergone by those who are likely to be put in the situation to make sure they get it right. As you read my posts you will have noticed that I try to be quite careful with my use of language - these are big differences, training is something that happens over a long period of time and you would hope involves when not to do it. You can be pretty sure that the policemen involved didn't get a quick course in shooting them in the head while they're down, for pity's sake I hope not.
and this is hair-splitting...