Originally posted by Restless Soulinteresting how suddenly something is acceptable if a comedian says it, but it's vilified if someone else says it.
I prefer these ones he did myself...
1. People who point at their wrist while asking for the time.... I know where my watch is pal, where the hell is yours? Do I point at my crotch when I ask where the toilet is?
2 People who are willing to get off their ass to search the entire room for the T.V. remote because they refuse to walk to the T.V. ...[text shortened]... Has the bus come yet?". If the bus came would I be standing here, dumbass?
Originally posted by MissOleum[1] It's easier to always use the right words when you say so little. Now, if you had a hard time understanding what i meant as a result, i'm sorry.
[1] accept
[2] wouldn't it be great (not the stone tools)
and I'm not 'educated", just pedantic
strange how ignorance has become so popular these days ...
[2] I don't particularly like a lot of modern art myself, and i hate rap, but there have been many positive developments in art and music in the modern era. Do you really hate ALL modern art and music? Or at least think so little of it that you would rather NONE existed?
I agree, you are pedantic.
It's not that ignorance has become popular these days, ignorance is always popular--but ignorance is more than slang, and more than a lack of appreciation for classics, ignorance is sometimes as evident among intellectuals as among the illiterate. Most people are about as educated as others, just about different things...
@ Nordlys: "not to mention" is generally used to suggest that something supports an already strong statement--it's as if, were you "not to mention" the next point, even though it strenghtens what you are saying, you'd still be clearly right. As far as "if you haven't been told..." I'll give you an example where someone might used it with good enough reason. Lets say you know someone and want to invite them to a party, now depending on the person, they may be insulted if you insinuate that they wouldn't have been ALREADY invited, so you speak in such a way as to suggest that you are only telling them IN CASE they didn't know, effectivly avoiding an accidental insult--at the very least, is polite and complimentary to subtly suggest that you were only telling them in case they hadn't already heard.
The only thing i'm trying to do is defend the often quite logical nuances of the english language. I'm familiar with George Carlin, and others who have similar routines, and i've never liked that style of humor much, as it often implies ignorance where it is not, and takes advantage of it where it is--within the audience.
Originally posted by uzlessThis is because the comedian is saying it to make fun of it, while Joe Normal is saying it because he thinks that's the way it should be said.
interesting how suddenly something is acceptable if a comedian says it, but it's vilified if someone else says it.
My #1 grammar pet peeve is these idiots who say "Me and my friend went to the club." instead of "My friend and I went to the club." I'm sorry, but freaking hillbillies say "me and my friend". It's the worst usage of english imaginable, and yet almost everyone says it.
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Originally posted by SuzianneThe problem may be that you don't understand the rule, probably because your grammar teacher didn't either, and so mercilessly taught you that you should always say "and I", or risk a big fat F-.
This is because the comedian is saying it to make fun of it, while Joe Normal is saying it because he thinks that's the way it should be said.
My #1 grammar pet peeve is these idiots who say "Me and my friend went to the club." instead of "My friend and I went to the club." I'm sorry, but freaking hillbillies say "me and my friend". It's the worst usage of english imaginable, and yet almost everyone says it.
In fact, "me and my friend" is perfectly fine if you aren't the subject of the sentence.
http://www.askoxford.com/asktheexperts/faq/aboutgrammar/meandi
So, while you were correct in your example, it gets a little iffy. If you change the sentence just slightly to:
Ozzy Osbourne invited my friend and I to the party.
Then you'd be wrong. The correct grammar is:
Ozzy Osbourne invited me and my friend to the party.
Sometimes freaking hillbillies get their grammar right!
Originally posted by joneschrOh, please.
The problem may be that you don't understand the rule, probably because your grammar teacher didn't either, and so mercilessly taught you that you should always say "and I", or risk a big fat F-.
In fact, "my friend and me" is perfectly fine if you aren't the subject of the sentence.
http://www.askoxford.com/asktheexperts/faq/aboutgrammar/meandi
So, while you were correct in your example, it gets a little iffy.
I gave a perfect example, with the "me and my friend" as the subject of the sentence.
Any baboon knows that "He came along with me and my friend to the cafe." is perfectly acceptable.
Listen to one hour of AM talk radio in America, and you will hear an endless barrage of "me and my friend" variations used as the subject of a sentence. That's what I'm talking about.
Originally posted by SuzianneAnd, if you read my reply, I pointed out that your example was correct. I've just heard a lot of baboons correcting peoples grammar who didn't know the difference.
Oh, please.
I gave a perfect example, with the "me and my friend" as the subject of the sentence.
Any baboon knows that "He came along with me and my friend to the cafe." is perfectly acceptable.
Listen to one hour of AM talk radio in America, and you will hear an endless barrage of "me and my friend" variations used as the subject of a sentence. That's what I'm talking about.
That's all I'm talking about.
Originally posted by joneschrWell, thank you for your concern but you are preaching to the choir.
And, if you read my reply, I pointed out that your example was correct. I've just heard a lot of baboons correcting peoples grammar who didn't know the difference.
That's all I'm talking about.
Not to mention diluting my argument. 😛
Originally posted by uzlessThose first two drive me nuts also - the cold blood bit is a metaphor.
Ok, here's a list of phrases I hear over and over that make no sense. If you do this, please stop. You sound like an idiot to your friends.
"I could care less".....Really? so you care a little bit about it then? What you mean to say is " I COULDN'T care less"....think about it.
"Put that on the counter so it can unthaw".....UNTHAW? What does that m ...[text shortened]... e in winter............
Your friends thank you and so would Professor Higgins.