Originally posted by Chessplaya548World War II? I believe a tiny incident called Pearl Harbor brought us into that war, but I"M not sure. Maybe you've heard of it?
If you look into any conflict that the United States has ever gotten into, there is something there that is valuable to the US in either material goods or military advantage (or equality). We have never truly acted out of good will.
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Originally posted by Derfel CadarnYou must be taking the piss, really.
The good will was ousting a man named Adolf Hitler and unifying the world.
Originally posted by Chessplaya548
If you look into any conflict that the United States has ever gotten into, there is something there that is valuable to the US in either material goods or military advantage (or equality). We have never truly acted out of good will.
I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with Chessplaya's point, but your posts are ridiculous. You think your involvement in WWII via Pearl Harbour is a good argument against Chessplaya's claim? Being declared war on is a demonstration of altruistic motives?? How can one demonstrate selflessness when one doesn't even have a bloody choice?
Your post just quoted reveals you have an inability to grasp even a simple argument. Crikey!
Originally posted by dylYes it is.
You must be taking the piss, really.
[b]Originally posted by Chessplaya548
If you look into any conflict that the United States has ever gotten into, there is something there that is valuable to the US in either material goods or military advantage (or equality). We have never truly acted out of good will.
I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with Chesspla ...[text shortened]... Your post just quoted reveals you have an inability to grasp even a simple argument. Crikey![/b]
If you look into any conflict that the United States has ever gotten into, there is something there that is valuable to the US in either material goods or military advantage (or equality). We have never truly acted out of good will.[/b]
So trying to rid the world of terrorists isn't good will?
Originally posted by Derfel CadarnHahaha.
Yes it is.
If you look into any conflict that the United States has ever gotten into, there is something there that is valuable to the US in either material goods or military advantage (or equality). We have never truly acted out of good will.
So trying to rid the world of terrorists isn't good will?[/b]
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Originally posted by Derfel CadarnYour mind's a muddle, mate. Let's go over our discussion so far:
Yes it is.
If you look into any conflict that the United States has ever gotten into, there is something there that is valuable to the US in either material goods or military advantage (or equality). We have never truly acted out of good will.
So trying to rid the world of terrorists isn't good will?
* First, Chessplaya made the claim that the U.S has never been involved in a conflict where self interest wasn't at the heart of it.
* Next, you put forward WWII (making specific mention of Pearl Harbour) as a refutation.
* I then point out that this makes no sense, and ask you how a situation in which the U.S only participated (in the conflict) after being attacked can be evidence of a gesture of good will. I make a point of mentioning that I am not necessarily agreeing with the original poster, and so am obviously not defending the original claim, but rather was simply taking exception to your absurd rebuttal.
* You bring up the much lauded War on Terror.
Are you claiming the U.S was fighting terrorists in WWII?
Originally posted by dylI guess you could call Hitler, Stalin, and Mussolini terrorists...
Your mind's a muddle, mate. Let's go over our discussion so far:
[b]* First, Chessplaya made the claim that the U.S has never been involved in a conflict where self interest wasn't at the heart of it.
* Next, you put forward WWII (making specific mention of Pearl Harbour) as a refutation.
* I then point out that this makes no sense, and ...[text shortened]... the much lauded War on Terror.
Are you claiming the U.S was fighting terrorists in WWII?[/b]