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Originally posted by Derfel Cadarn
Did people cry with us when that happened? No, they danced in the streets.
Yes, they did cry about the victums of the Twin Towers, but the trouble is that the media only showed the exesses of it whole. 😞

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Originally posted by cashthetrash
You mean like the Bush family spent on the levee in New Orleans instead of the mansions they have? Do you know how to spell mindless Zombie pills?
Edit: Apologies for quoting the wrong post!

Before the first Gulf war Iraq was a very progressive country with a good and efficient infrastructure and free education for all.

Regardless of how his regime behaved in other ways, don't try and pretend that it was some backward, country full of down trodden peasants just so you can feel less guilty about it.

The most remarkable thing I heard come out of the US media before the second Iraq war was how Sadam had created a country with no reliable power stations, litte clean running water etc etc. It seemed to have escaped the journalists notice that the reason the Iraqi infrastructure was so bad was because it had had the Sh*t blown out of it ten years earlier.

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Originally posted by Derfel Cadarn
Did people cry with us when that happened? No, they danced in the streets.
Most of the world was stunned, shocked and deeply sorry for all the victims of that attack.

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Let us all remember that America never learns its lesson.

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Originally posted by Derfel Cadarn
2738 died in OIF...

Documented chemical attacks by the regime, from 1983 to 1988, resulted in some 30,000 Iraqi and Iranian deaths.

Human Rights Watch estimates that Saddam's 1987-1988 campaign of terror against the Kurds killed at least 50,000 and possibly as many as 100,000 Kurds. o The Iraqi regime used chemical agents to include mustard gas a ...[text shortened]... n in October 2001 o At least 130 Iraqi women were beheaded between June 2000 and April 2001
If America is constantly concerned about repressive regimes and the suffering of those in other parts of the world then can you tell me why they chose to overlook the genocide of Rwanda and central Africa? There were no sophisticated chemical weapons (at least I don't think the Americans sold them any) just good old fashioned machetes but they still managed to carve up around 2 million. (The US army got their asses out of Somalia pretty damn quick too.)

This was done by the US and other countries (don't feel victimised here my American cousins) illegally since legislation has been in place after WWII to prevent any genocide that occurs anywhere in the world: the holocaust was to be the last of its kind.

I am not anti-American, my brother lives in the mid-west and some of the nicest and most decent people I have ever met have come from that part of the world. But while you are waving your flag, acting decently to one another why don't you think about why your government is so keen to protect those in the oppressed, oil-rich, Middle-East when they couldn't give a rat's ass about the worst genocide since WWII happening in Central Africa?

Remember, the price of freedom is eternal vigilance; wasn't it a great American who said those words?

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Originally posted by Derfel Cadarn
The Bush family are oil tycoons, or used to be. Their money is theirs to spend on whatever they wish.
The Bush family made their Money in the Oil Business. By borrowing money from The Bin Laden family then going bankrupt and not paying them back. Bush didn't make his money from Oil he make it raising Tax's in Arlington Texas and using those funds to build the Texas Rangers New Stadium project with that tax Money and then Pocketing the rest that wasn't spent. Of course he laundered it through the Charitable funding from the majority owner of the organization. Kind of a political Buttock kissing event. After all it wouldn't look good to have a penniless Bankrupt Governor/future President would it. And Baseball gets a new Commissioner?

Money for nothing and steroids for free.

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Originally posted by Derfel Cadarn
It won't bring back the slaughter of thousands of innocent Americans in the attacks on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, but people tend to forget about them because they're American, and America is just pure evil.
you started it all. although WTC-strike was horribly unjust attrocity to the people getting killed, you've been begging for it for decades now. it's a miracle such things don't happen more with your warmongering history in the middle east. you've made the bed, now you're sleeping in it.

I don't think american people differ much from the finnish, french or even iraqis, it's just that you've not had a war inside your country for so long you don't understand what it really is like. your troops are just shipped somewhere the average american can't even point on the map, then brought back disillusioned, upset because they've had a glimpse of what war really is. it never ceases to amaze me when I see americans surprised when their sons, husbands and relatives come back in a coffin. what did they think was going to happen??!

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Originally posted by Bowmann
Let us all remember that America never learns its lesson.
What lesson would that be buttercup?


RTh

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Originally posted by Ringtailhunter
What lesson would that be buttercup?


RTh
You've already forgotten?

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Originally posted by demonseed
If America is constantly concerned about repressive regimes and the suffering of those in other parts of the world then can you tell me why they chose to overlook the genocide of Rwanda and central Africa? There were no sophisticated chemical weapons (at least I don't think the Americans sold them any) just good old fashioned machetes but they still manage ...[text shortened]... he price of freedom is eternal vigilance; wasn't it a great American who said those words?
Because of the current man in Office. There is no money in it, therefore, he will not go after it.

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Originally posted by demonseed
If America is constantly concerned about repressive regimes and the suffering of those in other parts of the world then can you tell me why they chose to overlook the genocide of Rwanda and central Africa? There were no sophisticated chemical weapons (at least I don't think the Americans sold them any) just good old fashioned machetes but they still manage ...[text shortened]... he price of freedom is eternal vigilance; wasn't it a great American who said those words?
Well, we're not ignoring the situation in Darfur. Why just today I saw somebody with a "Save Darfur" bumper sticker.

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