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Originally posted by latex bishop
the business of the west has alway been to ensure that the rest of the world can purchase their products and services. That's why Europe was rebuilt on US dollars after WW2. Need to keep people spending.

Andrew🙄
Yes-as Warspite (a rather inactive RHP persona, and a good friend of mine) once said-"I am happy with my government as long as they keep me in sufficient polysterene."

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Royal Chicken Choker, if you hate the USA so much, why don't you catch the next plane to Baghdad. And while you're at, make it a ONE WAY ticket. The only reason you are even able to protest is because you live in the greatest country in the world, and the right to protest was paid in blood over the past 227 years. Why don't you and your anarchist, leftist-liberal puke pals ALL go to Baghdad and become a human shield and protect your hero Saddam; take Scorpion 666 with you, or better yet, go shack up with him in Beirut

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Originally posted by chancremechanic
Royal Chicken Choker, if you hate the USA so much, why don't you catch the next plane to Baghdad. And while you're at, make it a ONE WAY ticket. The only reason you are even able to protest is because you live in the greatest country in the world, and the right to protest was paid in blood over the past 227 years. Why don't you and your anarchis ...[text shortened]... tect your hero Saddam; take Scorpion 666 with you, or better yet, go shack up with him in Beirut
That is not nessary, there is a thing called "Freedom of Speech"
which you have to, but that doesnt mean you have to say things like that

-Adam

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Originally posted by chancremechanic
Royal Chicken Choker, if you hate the USA so much, why don't you catch the next plane to Baghdad. And while you're at, make it a ONE WAY ticket. The only reason you are even able to protest is because you live in the greatest country in the world, and the right to protest was paid in blood over the past 227 years. Why don't you and your anarchis ...[text shortened]... tect your hero Saddam; take Scorpion 666 with you, or better yet, go shack up with him in Beirut
Hot damn, boys! We've got us a boney-fide flame war! 😲 Kirk

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Originally posted by chancremechanic
Royal Chicken Choker, if you hate the USA so much, why don't you catch the next plane to Baghdad. And while you're at, make it a ONE WAY ticket. The only reason you are even able to protest is because you live in the greatest country in the world, and the right to protest was paid in blood over the past 227 years. Why don't you and your anarchis ...[text shortened]... tect your hero Saddam; take Scorpion 666 with you, or better yet, go shack up with him in Beirut
Come now, we all know the greatest country on earth is Denmark.

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Adam, I'll say anything I want!!! I'm not going to listen to anti- American drivel from another American when my fellow servicemen are fighting and getting killed in defense of him (or you for that matter). Let the Eurotrash (England excluded) bash America all they want; at least we can expect it from them.

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Originally posted by chancremechanic
Adam, I'll say anything I want!!! I'm not going to listen to anti- American drivel from another American when my fellow servicemen are fighting and getting killed in defense of him (or you for that matter). Let the Eurotrash (England excluded) bash America all they want; at least we can expect it from them.
HEY! I support the troops, I was trying to say that you didnt need to say that because [1] it can be ofenvsive [2] he has freedom of speech too which gives him the right to protest
-Adam

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Originally posted by bbarr
Come now, we all know the greatest country on earth is Denmark.
It aint Georgia though.😉 Kirk

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Originally posted by chancremechanic
Adam, I'll say anything I want!!! I'm not going to listen to anti- American drivel from another American when my fellow servicemen are fighting and getting killed in defense of him (or you for that matter). Let the Eurotrash (England excluded) bash America all they want; at least we can expect it from them.
Your fellow service men are in the Coast Guard, not in Iraq. You actually defend the United States as does the aptly named 'national guard', those in Iraq are not defending our freedoms, becasue Iraq poses no threat to our freedoms. If anything, attacking Iraq make it MORE probably that the US will suffer a terrorist attack with ties to Iraq, as the US intelligence agencies have often repeated. So those poor uniformed children in Iraq are, in fact, making us less safe by putting their lives on the line.

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OK, Uncle Adam...just so we are on the same sheet of music: What chicken said about wanting to leave the U.S. because he would not be able to live under a represive gov't, when there are millions in the world who would sell a kidney just to get here, was offensive to me, and since I was excercising my free speech initiative, I said what I had to say, offensive or not!! If I stepped on anyone's toes, my apologies to all except scorpion 666

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Originally posted by chancremechanic
Adam, I'll say anything I want!!! I'm not going to listen to anti- American drivel from another American when my fellow servicemen are fighting and getting killed in defense of him (or you for that matter). Let the Eurotrash (England excluded) bash America all they want; at least we can expect it from them.
Why not? Didn't you just get finished saying how America has freedom of speech, and that's why it's the greatest country in the world? If that's the case, then why should you try to prevent your countrymen from voicing their opinions? Aren't they just exercising that right?

And wouldn't the best way to support your troops be to not have them in a war at all? If you really care about people, you would prefer to not have them shot at or blown up, that's just common sense.

And yes, we're all eternally grateful for the defense against the Iraqis who try to squash our freedoms. I know at least for me personally, every time I try to open my mouth to say something there's one of Saddam Hussein's bullies trying to shut me up and take away my freedom of speech. Or when I try to peacably assemble, the Iraqi republican guard comes and stops me from doing so. Oh wait a minute, actually, those are just plain Republicans trying to do that.

-mike

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bbar, you are partially correct and partially wrong...there are Coast Guard units in the Persian Gulf, and my military ID card says Armed Forces of the United States, same as any Marine, sailor, soldier or airman serving this country (USA).;therefore, they are my fellow servicemen. Whether Iraq posed a threat to us is a moot point now, but for you information, when those "children" who would defend you do happen to find weapons of mass destruction, then will you believe that he was a danger?...

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Originally posted by chancremechanic
bbar, you are partially correct and partially wrong...there are Coast Guard units in the Persian Gulf, and my military ID card says Armed Forces of the United States, same as any Marine, sailor, soldier or airman serving this country (USA).;therefore, they are my fellow servicemen. Whether Iraq posed a threat to us is a moot point now, but for you in ...[text shortened]... ou do happen to find weapons of mass destruction, then will you believe that he was a danger?...
and just to add in, doesnt the Coast Guard use weapon when dealing with drug smugglers?

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Originally posted by chancremechanic
bbar, you are partially correct and partially wrong...there are Coast Guard units in the Persian Gulf, and my military ID card says Armed Forces of the United States, same as any Marine, sailor, soldier or airman serving this countr ...[text shortened]... f mass destruction, then will you believe that he was a danger?...
He no doubt has some weapons of mass destruction, the US provided him with materials to manufacture chemical and biological weapons when we supported him during the Iraq/Iran war (we were also supporting Iran with weapons, but that bit of hypocrisy has largely vanished from the cultutral memory). But even if we find other weapons of mass destruction we had no hand in providing him, does that mere possession consititute a 'clear and present danger' to our security? Again, our own intelligence community agrees that there is no evidence Iraq has planned to engage in a terrorist attack on the US, and that the likelihood of such an attack is increased by our aggression. In other news, do you know that around 40% of US citizens now believe that Iraq was behind the 9-11 attacks? I quess if you repeat something often enough it might as well be true.

By the way, this is from the Washington Post:
About 600 members of the Coast Guard, including 200 reservists, will fly to the Middle East after the eight cutters are loaded onto two freighters and on their way, officials said. The crews will join U.S. troops massing for a possible war with Iraq. Citing security concerns, officials declined to specify the destination, the crews' departure dates or the anticipated length of deployment.

The mission will be to provide port security and surveillance for the U.S. ships and personnel streaming into the region as the military buildup continues. Coast Guard spokesmen said one of the crews' chief responsibilities will be to deter a terrorist attack like that on the USS Cole off the coast of Yemen in October 2000.


So yes, although there are Coast Guard in the Gulf, they are not murdering people like their fellow servicemen.

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So, bbar, you are calling the servicemen in Iraq murderers?...You are probably pro-abortion, aren't you?...but in your reasoning, you probably believe it's a fetus not a human, am I correct? And judging by your picture as a Jedi warrior, maybe we can send you to Iraq to scare Saddam out of his skin so our soldiers won't have to "murder" anymore poor Iraqi Republican Guards. But knowing intellectuals, I bet you have never even saluted the flag or stood at attention during the National Anthem or even know where D-Day took place, but I bet your bedroom is plastered with luke skywalker and Chewbaka posters...you couldn't carry a soldier's jock strap!!