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I don't have any experience with marihuana and chess (fortunately 😉 )
but about alchohol:
I once played a serious game with a (slight 😛 ) hangover, the pain in my head prevented me from focussing on other things then chess, eventually i played a decent game and drew against a 100pt higher opponent.
About drinking during chess...i can definately conclude it doesnt work for me 😛 Sometimes at the end of the evening i play some rapid games and after drinking one or 2 glasses i notice it even becomes a challenge to score 50% against 200~300 pt lower opponents 😉
So buy your opponent a drink if all seems lost 😛
Originally posted by wormwoodIt's not just the calming effect. I believe pot also allows you to really tune into the patterns of open lines on the chess board.
some coffee is good for concentration, a lot of it disrupts concentration heavily. the same applies to many other drugs.
also the brain chemistry works in quite unintuitive ways. some people react to amphetamines by calming down and concentrating better for example.
personally, a few beers gives me higher rating on CTS and blitz. a lot of them ...[text shortened]... e it has a calming effect which would make concentrating easier. especially for nervous people.
I'm obviously talking about a little bit. Spend the day blazing, and you can't even remember what colour you are playing.
This is a sample of a fairly stoned game... I'm black.
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 g6 6. Be3 Bg7 7. f3 O-O 8. Qd2
Nc6 9. O-O-O Bd7 10. h4 Qc7 11. Bc4 Rfc8 12. h5 Na5 13. hxg6 Nxc4 14. gxh7+ Kh8
15. Qe2 Nxe3 16. Qxe3 Qa5 17. Nf5 Bxf5 18. exf5 Qxf5 19. g4 Qd7 20. Rde1 Rxc3
21. bxc3 Nd5 22. Qe4 Nxc3 23. Qxe7 Nxa2+ 24. Kd2 Bc3+ 25. Kd1 Qb5 26. Rh5 Qb1+
27. Ke2 Qxe1+ 0-1
And this is a more positional game... To be fair, my (white) 42nd move could probably be put down to the game going on all night, and finishing after too much canned bliss.
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. Re1 O-O 7. c3 b5 8. Bc2
d6 9. h3 Bb7 10. d4 Re8 11. Nbd2 Bf8 12. d5 Ne7 13. Nf1 Ng6 14. Bg5 Be7 15. g4
Bc8 16. Ng3 Rb8 17. b4 Nxd5 18. exd5 Bxg5 19. Bxg6 hxg6 20. a4 Bd7 21. axb5 Bxb5
22. Ne4 Bf4 23. Qb3 f5 24. gxf5 gxf5 25. Ng3 Bd3 26. c4 Be4 27. Nxe4 fxe4 28.
Rxe4 Qf6 29. Qb1 Qf5 30. Kg2 Kf7 31. Re1 Qh5 32. Rxa6 Rh8 33. Rh1 g5 34. Qf5+
Kg7 35. Rha1 Rbf8 36. Qg4 Kg6 37. Ra7 Rf7 38. Qxh5+ Rxh5 39. b5 Rfh7 40. b6 e4
41. bxc7 Rxh3 42. c8=Q exf3+ 43. Kf1 Rh1# 0-1
I am a complete patzer after drink, even the next day.
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I get the strong impression that the people who speak the loudest about how alcohol or marijuana hurt chess playing have never done it. in my experience, marijuana has the most positive effect on my game and caffeine the worst. there have certainly been games where i feel i have acquired a very deep understanding and insight of the truths of a position on pot which i cannot imagine happening buzzing on caffeine.
Originally posted by Adorea"Alekhine, who had a liking for alcohol was frequently drunk during his games with Euwe and consequently lost his title. However in a rematch, after giving up alcohol, he defeated Euwe by 10 wins to 4 with 11 draws making him the first man to ever regain the world champion." /1
I was just wondering, I had heard before that people actually play better when they've drank a little bit. However, I notice its similar with Marijuana too, if you've had very very little. B then, if I have too much I've had problems. I was wondering if anybody else has smoked and tried to play chess, and if they can actually do it? I wasn't having any bi ...[text shortened]... ....Forcing me to rediscover what I was doing...
Any other forgetful smokers around here?
"It is incredible how long Alekhine remained on top despite his
pernicious addiction to alcohol. Euwe's victory in their 1935 match
for the world championship must not be underestimated, especially
because for exactly half the match Alekhine totally abstained from
alcohol. But neither should Alekhine's recovery of the title in 1937
be overrated, since in that match Euwe was the victim of public
opinion in his native Holland that favored him so strongly that
even his sober mathematical mind was muddled by over-
optimism.
Alekhine's powers started to wane in 1935, and although he
avoided alcohol completely for the next five years the years of the
great tournaments at Nottingham 1936, Kemeri 1937, and AVRO
1938 his decline continued. He was still great, but he was no
longer unique.
Alekhine's views on many subjects changed often over the years,
probably due in part to the effects of alcohol." /2
I don't know about alcohol or pot but I frequently use: acid, mushrooms, and peyote when playing.
I find that it helps me become one with each of the pieces and understand that even the lowliest pawn does have feelings. Also it is easier to anticipate your opponents moves if you can uphold a dialog with their pieces.
Originally posted by petrovitchhe didnt allow a rematch to Capablanca, dont forget it
"Alekhine, who had a liking for alcohol was frequently drunk during his games with Euwe and consequently lost his title. However in a rematch, after giving up alcohol, he defeated Euwe by 10 wins to 4 with 11 draws making him the first man to ever regain the world champion." /1
"It is incredible how long Alekhine remained on top despite his
pernicious ...[text shortened]... jects changed often over the years,
probably due in part to the effects of alcohol." /2
Originally posted by petrovitchThroughout Alekhine's first tenure as champion (1927-1935), he refused to play in the same tournaments as Capablanca, and indeed was able to prevent Capablanca's participation in events which Alekhine himself wanted to play.
He offered a rematch with Capablanca if Cuba would give him asylum as a refugee; Cuba denied his request and he denied the rematch. And don't forget what Denker and others did to him.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Ra%C3%BAl_Capablanca
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Originally posted by GatecrasherFor OTB play (especially with faster time controls) even little dose of alcohol can make harm, as it slows down your reaction and ability to calculate. For CC good reaction and ability to calculate fast is not so important as in OTB chess.
A lovely snifter of single malt never did me or my game any harm.
Originally posted by nihilismorYou should a tiny bit of battery acid.
I don't know about alcohol or pot but I frequently use: acid, mushrooms, and peyote when playing.
I find that it helps me become one with each of the pieces and understand that even the lowliest pawn does have feelings. Also it is easier to anticipate your opponents moves if you can uphold a dialog with their pieces.
Originally posted by wargamer66That reminds me... I played this tournament game as white after a wee chuff.
I recall that Lawrence Day played in a Canadian tournament while smoking weed the whole weekend. He said it was "a disaster, results-wise."
Cant remember where I read that, possibly one of the Chess Addict books.
1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 dxe4 4. Nxe4 Bf5 5. Ng3 Qd7 6. Nf3 Bg4 7. Be2 Bxf3 8.
Bxf3 e6 9. O-O Be7 10. c4 Nf6 11. c5 Na6 12. a3 Nc7 13. b4 Ncd5 14. Ne2 O-O 15.
Bd2 b5 16. a4 a6 17. Qc2 h6 18. Ra3 Ra7 19. a5 Nh7 20. Be4 f5 21. Bxd5 exd5 22.
Nf4 Bg5 23. Ng6 Rf6 24. Ne5 Qc8 25. f4 Bh4 26. g3 Bxg3 27. Rxg3 Nf8 28. h4 g6
29. Kh2 h5 30. Rfg1 Rg7 31. Bc1 Qc7 32. Qg2 Qb7 33. Re1 Qc7 34. Rge3 Kh7 35. Qg3
Qb7 36. Nf3 Kg8 37. Re8 Qc7 38. Ng5 Qd7 39. R1e5 Qb7 40. Qe1 Qd7 41. Ra8 Qb7 42.
Ree8 Qd7 43. Qe5 Rgf7 44. Nxf7 Rxf7 45. Qb8 Kg7 46. Rxf8 Qe7 47. Qe5+ Qxe5 48.
Rxf7+ Kxf7 49. fxe5 Kg7 50. Rxa6 1-0
I think my play was quite strong, except for the faulty plan along the g file, and the nearly disastrous 47. Qe5+.
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