Cheating accusations

Originally posted by Dragon Fire
90% is an "off the top of his head" statement made on the spur of the moment when I saw him last week and tried to convince him to join. Most likely its 70% to 80% I imagine. I would presume his correspondence grade is circa 2600.

I don't know if you are saying this (maybe you are and its possibly true) but a lowly rated player using an engine would t ...[text shortened]... s real name will not be a problem. I think he plays in 4NCL for either Guildford or Barbican.

There's a world of difference beween a player matching an engine by 90% (extremely rare unless cheating) and someone matching by 70% (fairly normal). Yes, he was probably exaggerating.

I still don't understand how he is able to achieve a 2600 rating in correspondence. Ok, he has more time to think about his moves compared to OTB. but so do all his opponents! Most players who are active in both OTB and correspondence chess tend to have similar ratings. For instance, I'm rated about 50 points higher on RHP than my Elo rating.

If he really is 2600 strength in correspondence chess then he should easily be one of the top players here. Akizy and Weyerstrass had better watch out!

Originally posted by Jusuh
I would not say. Thanks for pointing that out.

Haha, I like that expression you used. Something new.

I know you aren't here to practise your English. This is a horrible place for that.

I think you are just here to take stabs at people and laugh at them. In that case, you are in the right place!

Originally posted by RahimK


I think you are just here to take stabs at people and laugh at them. In that case, you are in the right place!

I would say you are absolutely right.

Originally posted by adramforall
That rather limits who you are talking about

Guildford

http://www.4ncl.co.uk/0607_reg_gui.htm

Barbican

http://www.4ncl.co.uk/0607_reg_bar.htm

Strong players all, I'm sure you will agree.

Now if I can just get one of them to join that will be worthwhile won't it.?

Edit: However, having looked at the members in these lists I find he has moved to Wessex in the 4NCL. Imagine my surprise to find that there are 4 other players in that team who I am also been working on to join us here on RHP. All have voiced similar concerns about possible cheating accusations. Maybe its an excuse because they have there hands full but 5 players from Wessexs 4NCL team playing here will be a bonus.

Of course they may not all be that great as 2 of them I have beaten OTB before.

Originally posted by David Tebb
There's a world of difference beween a player matching an engine by 90% (extremely rare unless cheating) and someone matching by 70% (fairly normal). Yes, he was probably exaggerating.

I still don't understand how he is able to achieve a 2600 rating in correspondence. Ok, he has more time to think about his moves compared to OTB. but so do all his opp ...[text shortened]... he should easily be one of the top players here. Akizy and Weyerstrass had better watch out!

I think thats my fault as I picked up somewhere that RHP grades were alledgedly 200 or so points higher than OTB for most people so I simply added that to his grade.

My RHP grade is currently 100 above my OTB grade due mainly to improved opening performance but I am optimistic I can convert this with improved OTB play this season. I have played more KGA here for example in the last few months than OTB in the last 10 years and that must result in an improvement.

Someone ranked 2350 Elo would not match 9 out of 10 moves with a GM for that matter let alone an engine. If you have seen the difference between 2700 and 2500 games you would also note the difference with 2300 games.

Do you have a sample of the said players games against recognised opposition?

Originally posted by Dragon Fire
Strong players all, I'm sure you will agree.

[b]Now if I can just get one of them to join that will be worthwhile won't it.?

Edit: However, having looked at the members in these lists I find he has moved to Wessex in the 4NCL. Imagine my surprise to find that there are 4 other players in that team who I am also been working on to join us here o ...[text shortened]... be a bonus.

Of course they may not all be that great as 2 of them I have beaten OTB before.[/b]

Only if they give me lessons 😛

Originally posted by z00t
Someone ranked 2350 Elo would not match 9 out of 10 moves with a GM for that matter let alone an engine. If you have seen the difference between 2700 and 2500 games you would also note the difference with 2300 games.

Do you have a sample of the said players games against recognised opposition?

Look in the British Chess Magazine. Plenty of games played by them in there for Wessex in the 4NCL.

Originally posted by Dragon Fire
Strong players all, I'm sure you will agree.

[b]Now if I can just get one of them to join that will be worthwhile won't it.?

Edit: However, having looked at the members in these lists I find he has moved to Wessex in the 4NCL. Imagine my surprise to find that there are 4 other players in that team who I am also been working on to join us here o ...[text shortened]... be a bonus.

Of course they may not all be that great as 2 of them I have beaten OTB before.[/b]

DF: Now if I can just get one of them to join that will be worthwhile won't it.?

Not really. Why would you think going through all this trouble to drag a player onto an internet chess site he is not inclined to join on his own is "worthwhile"?

Originally posted by no1marauder
DF: Now if I can just get one of them to join that will be worthwhile won't it.?

Not really. Why would you think going through all this trouble to drag a player onto an internet chess site he is not inclined to join on his own is "worthwhile"?

Because they will play for our clan!

Those are just excuses. They aren't interested in playing here. Let them be.

What's the fun in stacking your clan? Maybe all the clans will be reset like the recs, who knows 🙂

Originally posted by Dragon Fire
Because they will play for our clan!

Clans are pointless except as a way to get more games until the LAME CLAN CHALLENGE SCORING SYSTEM is abolished and replaced by a rationale way to judge team play.

Originally posted by Dragon Fire
Look in the British Chess Magazine. Plenty of games played by them in there for Wessex in the 4NCL.

I did not ask for 2300 games in general there are loads in the British Championship of which I have the pgns. Show me some of the games of your friend specifically where 9 out of 10 moves of his match up with a top engine (not GnuChess). You do not appear to understand the difference between 2300/2500 and 2700 (whose moves would be expected to match top engines).

What is the difference in Gormally's game with that of Adams may I ask, (assuming you know who they are)?

Originally posted by Dragon Fire
Because they will play for our clan!

If you want to get your clan up in the tables, you need players who play a lot, at whatever level. If you have a player with a very high rating, you might not get many challenges for him even if he wants to play a lot, because there are not so many other players at that level out there. So unless you want to play in the leagues, having high-rated players in the clan isn't really an advantage.

Originally posted by Nordlys
If you want to get your clan up in the tables, you need players who play a lot, at whatever level. If you have a player with a very high rating, you might not get many challenges for him even if he wants to play a lot, because there are not so many other players at that level out there. So unless you want to play in the leagues, having high-rated players in the clan isn't really an advantage.

Ah, but it's the kudos. Like wearing a vest made of solid gold.