Originally posted by omulcusobolaniI never said I had no plan.
So what you are saying is you had no plan and thought you should make a lame threat to his pawn which he can easily defend in multiple ways including moving his knight back and going for a repetition of moves.
I wanted to brake the row G, if he had done Nd6, I would have played Ng5 to protect f pawn and after his move, I would have done g4 and h5
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Originally posted by Stroubidoul2The reasons why you wouldnt play a4 is because you would allow him to lock your pawns down its much harder to play b4 in any ending...... not to mention a4 would make a nice hole on the b4 square for the knight.
because he would have the opportunity to have a passed pawn (I hope the translation is correct) and I don't want to use a bishop to protect a pawn structure and also because all my pawn are on black case so I'm able to use my white bishop without any restrictions.
Originally posted by Dragon FireNo, because I needed to keep my h Rook on h to make h5. And it would be easy to go back on d6
but there is no immediate threat to his d2 pawn which is easily defended. Would it not be strategically better to play Rhd1 forcing him to defend the d2 pawn anyway and keeping that knght on a strategically strong (d6) outpost?
Edit: Come on, I have never played you and have no axe to grind. I am trying to give you the benefit of the doubt. Give me so ...[text shortened]... 00 level? Inaccurate English we can excuse but strategic and tactical principle remain the same.
I understand that you giving me the benefit of the doubt. Thanks. So this is why I'm trying to answer as clearly that I can even if it is passed midnight and even if all this "story" is killing me...
[Event "Clan challenge"]
[Site "http://www.timeforchess.com"]
[Date "2006.09.29"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Gladius Exitialis"]
[Black "Stroubidoul"]
[Result "0-1"]
[Annotator "Fritz (black only)"]
[PlyCount "92"]
[GameId "2558461"]
1. d4 d5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nc3 Nc6 4. g3 Bg4 5. Bg2 h6 6. Ne5 Novelty Nxe5 (6... Bf5) 7. dxe5 Ne4 (7... Nd7) 8. Nxd5 Bf5 9. f3 Nc5 10. f4 e6 (10... c6) 11. Nc3 Qxd1+ 12. Kxd1 O-O-O+ 13. Bd2 Nd7 (13... Bh7) 14. Be4 Bb4 (14... Bxe4) 15. Bxf5 exf5 16. Nd5 Bxd2 (16... Bc5) 17. Ne7+ Kb8 18. Kxd2 g6 19. Kc3 Rhe8 20. Nd5 c6 21. Nb4 f6 22. Rad1 fxe5 23. Rd6 exf4 (23... e4) 24. gxf4 Nc5 25. Rxg6 Rxe2 26. Rxh6 Re3+ 27. Kc4 Ne4 28. Nd3 b5+ 29. Kb4 Rd4+ 30. Ka3 Ra4+ 31. Kb3 c5 32. a3 c4+ 33. Ka2 cxd3 34. Rg1 Nc5 35. cxd3 Rxd3 36. Rh7 Nd7 (36... Rd8) 37. Rg8+ Kc7 38. Rg3 Rd2 39. Rf3 Kd6 40. Rh5 Ke6 41. h3 Nf6 42. Re3+ Re4 43. Rxe4+ Nxe4 44. Rh6+ Kd5 45. Rh7 a5 46. a4 Kc4 0-1
Any move where no alternative is listed for black's move matched with Fritz's first choice after 20-25 seconds (that gets to about 13 ply, more at the end, less at the beginning). Where an alternative is listed that is the first choice of Fritz after the same time. In every non-match except the first two the played move matches the second choice of Fritz.
Using Crafty I found that every non-match except the first two is a first choice match with Crafty after 30 seconds (slower engine).
My conclusion: Unless this game is an extreme outlier this is one of the most blatent cheats since Ironman.
Originally posted by BedlamYes, maybe, but I would not concider to have a place for my knight on this side of the bord right now. For me, being able to move my bishop is more important. not for now of course, but maybe in the next 10 moves.
The reasons why you wouldnt play a4 is because you would allow him to lock your pawns down its much harder to play b4 in any ending...... not to mention a4 would make a nice hole on the b4 square for the knight.
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Originally posted by Stroubidoul2So if your plan was to break down the h file why didn't you leave that Knight on d6 and play g4 immediately with the prospect of Rh2 and Nf5.
No, because I needed to keep my h Rook on h to make h5. And it would be easy to go back on d6
I understand that you giving me the benefit of the doubt. Thanks. So this is why I'm trying to answer as clearly that I can even if it is passed midnight and even if all this "story" is killing me...
You either have a plan for the h file or a plan for the d file but not 2 conflicting plans surely?
Originally posted by Dragon Firebecause, if I had played g4, He would have done Ne2+ and after it would have been easy to make Rxf3
So if your plan was to break down the h file why didn't you leave that Knight on d6 and play g4 immediately with the prospect of Rh2 and Nf5.
You either have a plan for the h file or a plan for the d file but not 2 conflicting plans surely?
Originally posted by XanthosNZIf the majority of games have similar matches I must concer it is highly supicious.
[Event "Clan challenge"]
[Site "http://www.timeforchess.com"]
[Date "2006.09.29"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Gladius Exitialis"]
[Black "Stroubidoul"]
[Result "0-1"]
[Annotator "Fritz (black only)"]
[PlyCount "92"]
[GameId "2558461"]
1. d4 d5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nc3 Nc6 4. g3 Bg4 5. Bg2 h6 6. Ne5 Novelty Nxe5 (6... Bf5) 7. dxe5 Ne4 (7... Nd7) 8. Nxd5 Bf5 9. ...[text shortened]... s an extreme outlier this is one of the most blatent cheats since Ironman.
I put a couple of my games on Fritz and if we disregard the opening phase (when I am using books) my match of 1st and 2nd Fritz moves is 50-60% in most games but (and maybe this is more important and usual) virtually without exception I have at least one move, oftem more, not even appearing in Fritzs top 6
Originally posted by XanthosNZIf you are so kind, could you put your findings in statistical terms?
[Event "Clan challenge"]
[Site "http://www.timeforchess.com"]
[Date "2006.09.29"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Gladius Exitialis"]
[Black "Stroubidoul"]
[Result "0-1"]
[Annotator "Fritz (black only)"]
[PlyCount "92"]
[GameId "2558461"]
1. d4 d5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nc3 Nc6 4. g3 Bg4 5. Bg2 h6 6. Ne5 Novelty Nxe5 (6... Bf5) 7. dxe5 Ne4 (7... Nd7) 8. Nxd5 Bf5 9. ...[text shortened]... s an extreme outlier this is one of the most blatent cheats since Ironman.
Fritz analysis output is confusing for me.
It is obvious that you are familiar with his output.
I'm looking forward for your kind answer.
- J
Originally posted by CrazyLilTingBlack made 41 non-database moves, 33 of those matched Fritz's first choice. 6 matched Fritz's second choice.
If you are so kind, could you put your findings in statistical terms?
Fritz analysis output is confusing for me.
It is obvious that you are familiar with his output.
I'm looking forward for your kind answer.
- J
All 6 that matched Fritz's second choice matched the first choice of Crafty.
I'm sure you can do the division to work out percentages if you so wish. And really I don't get the confusion when looking at engine output, it's not rocket science and I explained it.
Originally posted by XanthosNZThats 95%
Black made 41 non-database moves, 33 of those matched Fritz's first choice. 6 matched Fritz's second choice.
All 6 that matched Fritz's second choice matched the first choice of Crafty.
I'm sure you can do the division to work out percentages if you so wish. And really I don't get the confusion when looking at engine output, it's not rocket science and I explained it.
Top GMs like Kramnik, Topalov, Fischer are in the high 60 low 70 percentile, so yeah thats impossible. Thats about as high a matchup as Jean Hebert.
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Originally posted by Stroubidoul2You said you would do this, but you have not complied! The only excuse for you NOT to do it is that the results would prove that you know very little about chess strategy!
OK, Now I know exactly what you mean by annotations!
thanks!
I will do it.
Originally posted by arrakis
I'm not accusing you of being a cheater, but look at this thread to understand what an annotated game should look like:
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=55256
posted by Stroubidoul2
OK, Now I know exactly what you mean by annotations!
thanks!
I will do it.
Originally posted by CrazyLilTingIt's the same in German ('Turm'😉 and Norwegian ('tårn'😉, too.
And in fact it's the same in spanish: Rook = Tower, and in spanish Tower is torre.
Pawn = peón (in english pawn)
Rook = torre (in english tower)
Knight = caballo (in english horse)
Bishop = alfil (in english bishop)
Queen = dama, reina (in notation we use dama to avoid confusion with "rey" )
King = rey
- J
Pawn = Bauer = bonde (farmer)
Rook = Turm = tårn (tower) (T)
Knight = Springer = springer (jumper) (S)
Bishop = Läufer = løper (runner) (L)
Queen = Dame (lady) = dronning (queen) (D)
King = König = konge (king) (K)