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Is it posible, kramnik cheating?

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Originally posted by Los Angeles
Official start of game 6 tomorrow · Oct 1, 10:23 PM

FIDE has announced the start of game 6 tomorrow at 15:00 local time. Here we present you the press release and the doubts that the decision creates.
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http://www.forumforme.com/showthread.php?p=32#post32
"We"? Do you have a sock puppet that also likes crybaby losers who want wins without actually playing a game?

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The truth behind the events in Elista

Interview with Silvio Danailov. A lot of things the public does not know about Kramnik


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-*Will Topalov shake hands with Kramnik?*
- Kramnik was very arrogant to him. Besides, he was constantly offering him draws and making him nervous. Maybe a handshake in the name of fairplay will be present.
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-*Kramnik wants a written excuse from you*
- This is childish and he will not receive one. There is nothing to apologize about. In Russia and around the world his family and friends made a PR campaign against us. They called us cheaters. Then the public opinion formed. He plays his own games but the trick will not work.
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The vice premier of Russia, Alexander Zhukov, said that the match should continue with score 3:1. He is a politician and, besides, he should be neutral since he is a part of the organizing comittee......


There are a lot more "spicy" things ....


http://www.forumforme.com/showthread.php?p=33#post33



I have great sympathy for the Russians, but again they insisted it was according to the agreement for Kramnik to have his private bathroom "out of reach" basically. But now when the rules say you lost a game because you didn't play he does not like them. What a man.

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Originally posted by Los Angeles
[b]The truth behind the events in Elista

Interview with Silvio Danailov. A lot of things the public does not know about Kramnik


......................

-*Will Topalov shake hands with Kramnik?*
- Kramnik was very arrogant to him. Besides, he was constantly offering him draws and making him nervous. Maybe a handshake in the name of fairplay ...[text shortened]... he rules say you lost a game because you didn't play he does not like them. What a man.
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You a supporter of the rules??? What a hypocrite! The entire Appeals Committee resigned because it made an erroneous decision, but the "obviously superior" Topalov still wants a win that he didn't earn. What a joke!

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To make it easy to read I'll post it separatly:

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-*Russian journalists ask how you understood he goes to the bathroom*
- There are records and our technical experts requested them. The referee did not say much, except that he has noticed the fact.

**Even people that do not play chess noticed the fact that when Kramnik comes out of the toilet he plays almost immedeately. **

That is not normal and we requested the records. ............


THAT'S WHY THEY DON'T WANT THE TOPALOV'S TEAM AND THE JOURNALISTS TO SEE THE TAPES.

KRAMNIK COMES OUT OF THE TOILET AND PLAYS ALMOST IMMEDEATELY!!!

Only crooks and dishonest cheats can believe him now.


One peace at a time but the TRUTH is coming out.

Change the country and no private bathrooms.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
You a supporter of the rules??? What a hypocrite! The entire Appeals Committee resigned because it made an erroneous decision, but the "obviously superior" Topalov still wants a win that he didn't earn. What a joke!
What a tragedy!

What was the "erroneous decision"?

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Originally posted by Los Angeles
To make it easy to read I'll post it separatly:

[b]..........
-*Russian journalists ask how you understood he goes to the bathroom*
- There are records and our technical experts requested them. The referee did not say much, except that he has noticed the fact.

**Even people that do not play chess noticed the fact that when Kramnik comes out of t ...[text shortened]... a time but the TRUTH is coming out.

Change the country and no private bathrooms.

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I'd say you're not normal. Plus you seem to be making it up as you go along.

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Originally posted by Los Angeles
What a tragedy!

What was the "erroneous decision"?
To close the private bathrooms agreed to in the original contract. In case you missed it, FIDE reversed that decision.

«The issue of the bathrooms» has been resolved

Today the representatives of the two teams agreed on the allocation of the restrooms between the players. The rooms will be assigned to each player on a permanent basis until the end of the match. After this, the representatives of Topalov’s team made a thorough inspection of the room allocated to Mr. Kramnik. A detailed report of the inspection was prepared. It was signed by the Bulgarian side and the representatives of the Organising Committee.

The parties remained satisfied with the inspection.

http://www.worldchess2006.com/main.asp?id=1021

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Originally posted by no1marauder
To close the private bathrooms agreed to in the original contract. .........

Ha, ha, ha ...

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Originally posted by Los Angeles
The mentally deficient often laugh for no apparent reason. And you seem to have screwed up the "Reply and Post" technique; don't worry it's a real toughie, Rain Man.

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Kramnik, Topalov agree to continue match at 3-2 - Ilyumzhinov

.............Kramnik's team did not appeal the decision of the appeal board on bathrooms, nor the result of the fifth game, in which Kramnik was defeated by default, Ilyumzhinov said. According to the regulations, a team has two hours following the conclusion of a game in which to make an appeal, he said. ..................

???


There were suggestions from some GM's that the match should continue with 3-1 score. Based on what?

Kramnik knows he can create a good game and the only thing he could do is make a scandal.
The rules are rules.

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Originally posted by Los Angeles

The rules are rules.
The new rule is that this position is a win for black:

rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1

if the opponent has gone to the toilet more than usual in the previous games.

It's Topalov's best game so far, no doubt.

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So what's happening? Are they playing or what??

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Bessel Kok on the World Championship crisis

The Appeals Committee blundered in accepting a complaint which was nothing more than declaring a suspicion of possible fraud. This was simply wrong. The Committee should have rejected this complaint immediately, stating that no proof whatsoever had been supplied. Instead of this, they accepted the complaint of Topalov’s manager Silvio Danailov, they disclosed private video images from Kramnik’s rest room, and they changed the match conditions which had been agreed in advance by both Grandmasters and their delegations.

The arbiter subsequently started a game which should have never been played in the first place, because the playing conditions had been unilaterally modified. This was a second mistake, although Geurt Gijssen will probably defend his decision by stating that he based this on the verdict of the Appeals Committee.

So my conclusions are simple:

The Appeals Committee made a wrong judgment and its decision to modify the playing conditions must be declared null and void.

Game five was started under playing conditions that were not mutually agreed by both players (and in fact explicitly rejected by one of them), so the game should be considered null and void.

Game five should start tomorrow, Monday, October 2nd, and the match should continue under the same playing conditions as agreed before.

The Appeals Committee should be dismissed and replaced by a Committee agreed by both players.

In the absence of an agreed Committee, the FIDE President is responsible for the duties of the Committee.

Proceed as quickly as possible with the outsourcing of all top-level chess competitions to a separate company manage by professional organisers.

Get on with it! Enough damage has been done!!

http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=3387

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I'm upset that the match is continuing 3-2, with Kramnik now on the black pieces.

You would think at his level Topalov would strive to actually earn his victories.

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