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king and knight v king

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Originally posted by Smiffy
Tutts get over yourself piggy.
I agree with Pigface1 and Ares3. There was a game in progress. One of the players asked a question which could have an impact on the result of that game ( bear with me... ). Soliciting help on a game in progress and / or providing such assistance is frowned upon / against the TOS of this site.

Now, how could this possibly have an affect on the outcome of the game in question? Surely K & N v K is a draw? No amount of help could change this, surely??

1. What would happen if the replies given to the original poster were incorrect. What if a bunch of jokers or people lacking knowledge made multiple postings in this forum stating that the postion could and should be a win! Possibly, the original poster might see this and resign - unlikely, but possible. It therefore has an impact on the game.

2. What if the position being asked about ( in this case K & N v K ) was NOT a draw? Surely answering this question again influences play? The two players might have agreed a draw, but now play on and a result is achieved!

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Originally posted by saffa73
I agree with Pigface1 and Ares3. There was a game in progress. One of the players asked a question which could have an impact on the result of that game ( bear with me... ). Soliciting help on a game in progress and / or providing such assistance is frowned upon / against the TOS of this site.

Now, how could this possibly have an affect on the outcome of ...[text shortened]... uences play? The two players might have agreed a draw, but now play on and a result is achieved!
I say: Let the pieces fall where they may. If these rubes don't know basic endgames or the minimum force necessary to enforce checkmate, then they deserve whatever fate befalls them.

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Originally posted by Smiffy
Tutts get over yourself piggy.
Sorry it wasnt meant to sound like a communist statement 🙂, I was just warning the poster that thats what it was incase he/she didnt know, no harm meant.

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thanks, i get the message.

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The rule shouldn't be subjectively based upon whatever the poster was thinking at the time of posting. It should be an objective rule based on indicia contained in the post. Here, this was obviously a theoretical question, there was no required FEN and the same sort of question has been posted time and time again on the threads.

If this should really be considered a game in progress question, then every post asking about openings ("is the Sicilian good? " ) could be a game in progress question if the poster is considering playing that in a game that just began. That would be a ridiculous and stupid rule.

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While it's good to know that the mate cannot happen with just a knight. Both the OP and his opponent should know that in such situations either of them can use the Claim Draw button to end the game, they don't need to agree on a draw.

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Quick one! Can King & Rook versus King & knight produce a result other than a draw? Just yes or no please!
Sorry! this should probably be a new thread:'(

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Originally posted by zebano
While it's good to know that the mate cannot happen with just a knight. Both the OP and his opponent should know that in such situations either of them can use the Claim Draw button to end the game, they don't need to agree on a draw.
I don't think that draw is implemented here.

AFAIK, the only time the lack of material draw can be claimed on here is when both players only have Kings.

It's never happened to me, but I believe that is the case.

D

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Originally posted by jbuxxx
Quick one! Can King & Rook versus King & knight produce a result other than a draw? Just yes or no please!
Sorry! this should probably be a new thread:'(
That's also a game in progress: Game 4380562

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Originally posted by jbuxxx
Quick one! Can King & Rook versus King & knight produce a result other than a draw? Just yes or no please!
Sorry! this should probably be a new thread:'(
yes, but very difficult I undestand

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in the possotion where black king on a1 pawn on a2, white king on c1 stick another black pawn on the h file so it is not stalemate

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Originally posted by jbuxxx
Quick one! Can King & Rook versus King & knight produce a result other than a draw? Just yes or no please!
Sorry! this should probably be a new thread:'(
K & R vs K & N is usually drawn with correct play from both sides except in a few exceptional cases.

It is likely, unless you are a GM that even in those exceptional cases the 50 move rule will come into play.

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In my last post I meant 'a' file

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Originally posted by Doctor Rat
Well, the original post was about K vs K+N, then it was brought up K+P vs K+N, so I'd have to say that having queens on the board isn't allowed in this particular case. I was just trying to consider the strict endgame of K+P vs K+N, but you are right that the final position is possible if other pieces are allowed.
Here ya go. No Queens or extra pieces on board. White has a forced mate in 3 moves.

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