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24 Mar 08
24 Mar 08
I fell in love with KG. But AS WHITE. There is nothing worse then seeing 2. f4 while I have black pieces. I am terrible. Especially in accepted one. So I want to find a way to reduce tactic at minimum and to safely castle (preferably on the queenside.. there is really panic going on on kingside in KG).
2... Bc5 is most common way of refusing it but that builds imposing pawn center for white and he will be able to castle anyway ( pawns on c3 and then d4 with tempo. )
It is the only thing I hate more than French defence as white 😛
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24 Mar 08
Originally posted by kbaumen2. f4 is played very rarely compared to 2. Nf3 so I do not want give up that to avoid KG. I want to learn how to survive it. falkbeer seems ok as far I've seen.
The best way to avoid KG is to play something else instead of 1. ... e5. And it's quite difficult IMO to avoid sharp, tactical lines after 2. f4. Play the falkbeer (2. ... d5) or accept the KG and 3. ... g5.
24 Mar 08
Originally posted by ivan2908Then dig for it. It's very hard to advise one on his opening repertoire. It really depends on your level, preferences and character. Check out different systems and choose one from them to study deep. Just be careful that the more popular line you choose, the bigger are chances your opponent will know it.
2. f4 is played very rarely compared to 2. Nf3 so I do not want give up that to avoid KG. I want to learn how to survive it. falkbeer seems ok as far I've seen.
24 Mar 08
Originally posted by ivan29082... Bc5 is most common way of refusing it but that builds imposing pawn center for white and he will be able to castle anyway ( pawns on c3 and then d4 with tempo. )
I fell in love with KG. But AS WHITE. There is nothing worse then seeing 2. f4 while I have black pieces. I am terrible. Especially in accepted one. So I want to find a way to reduce tactic at minimum and to safely castle (preferably on the queenside.. there is really panic going on on kingside in KG).
2... Bc5 is most common way of refusing it but that ...[text shortened]... d4 with tempo. )
It is the only thing I hate more than French defence as white 😛
help
Its not so simple - black will be able to attack white center and white will have to play carefully for not getting into trouble.
Here is one good example:
[Event "Aubervilliers op 16th"]
[Site "Aubervilliers"]
[Date "1989.01.??"]
[Round "0"]
[White "Polgar,Zsuzsa"]
[Black "Sharif,Mershad"]
[Result "0-1"]
[Eco "C30"]
1.e4 e5 2.f4 Bc5 3.Nf3 d6 4.c3 Bb6 5.d4 exd4 6.cxd4 Bg4 7.Be3 Nf6 8.Nc3 Nc6
9.Bc4 0-0 10.0-0 Nxe4 11.Nxe4 d5 12.Bxd5 Qxd5 13.Nc5 Rfe8 14.Qd2 Bxf3 15.Rxf3 Rxe3 16.Rxe3 Bxc5
17.Kh1 Qxd4 18.Rd3 Qf6 19.Re1 h6 20.a3 Bd6 21.Rf1 Re8 22.b4 a6 23.g3 Qe6 24.Rff3 Qe4
25.Kg1 a5 26.Qe1 0-1
24 Mar 08
Originally posted by ivan2908An Ulster player came up with an interesting approach to the French Defence, I think it was published in "New in Chess". Sorry for going off-topic but here's the link:http://www.jackalattack.com/
I fell in love with KG. But AS WHITE. There is nothing worse then seeing 2. f4 while I have black pieces. I am terrible. Especially in accepted one. So I want to find a way to reduce tactic at minimum and to safely castle (preferably on the queenside.. there is really panic going on on kingside in KG).
2... Bc5 is most common way of refusing it but that ...[text shortened]... d4 with tempo. )
It is the only thing I hate more than French defence as white 😛
help
24 Mar 08
Originally posted by KorchIn the game mentioned 5.Na3 probably offers white more chances; 7.Bb5+! is certainly an improvement (in my opinion), idea being 7...c6 8.Be2 when the black knight no longer gets to c6 to pressurise the white centre.
[b]2... Bc5 is most common way of refusing it but that builds imposing pawn center for white and he will be able to castle anyway ( pawns on c3 and then d4 with tempo. )
Its not so simple - black will be able to attack white center and white will have to play carefully for not getting into trouble.
Here is one good example:
[Event "Aubervilliers ...[text shortened]... 1 h6 20.a3 Bd6 21.Rf1 Re8 22.b4 a6 23.g3 Qe6 24.Rff3 Qe4
25.Kg1 a5 26.Qe1 0-1[/b]
24 Mar 08
Originally posted by najdorfslayerAs someone who plays both sides of the KG, I agree that 3...g5 is the most critical continuation and is indeed what I normally play as black. However, to say "Black is already better" is, I think, a claim too far!
Seriously play 2...exf4 then 3...g5.
Here I believe Black is already better.
If you want some examples I will gladly post some (against good KG players too)
24 Mar 08
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Originally posted by Northern LadI agree that 5.Na3 could be better try for advantage, but I` would not say that it could refute 4...Bb6 line.
In the game mentioned 5.Na3 probably offers white more chances; 7.Bb5+! is certainly an improvement (in my opinion), idea being 7...c6 8.Be2 when the black knight no longer gets to c6 to pressurise the white centre.
Also I agree that 7.Bb5+ c6 8.Be2 is better choice for white, but after 8...Ne7 black has no reason to complain.
24 Mar 08
Originally posted by Northern Ladits a claim that Fischer was more then happy to make... 3... d6 the "most elegant waiting move" 4...g5 and your in the fischer defense... a defense which fischer wrote a book about after losing to spassky in a KGA game. Where his fiery statement "Of course white can make other moves, and lose differently."
As someone who plays both sides of the KG, I agree that 3...g5 is the most critical continuation and is indeed what I normally play as black. However, to say "Black is already better" is, I think, a claim too far!
fischer says g5 and later h6 makes black "much stronger" than white. i personally will say that i think black is better, and with company like fischer, i feel pretty solid about it. 🙂