Originally posted by twhiteheadYou showed me a computer program you wrote didn't you? Was there
Interesting that you put forward as your main reason a word you do not understand and a claim that has been proved false to you multiple times on these forums.
If you think that entropy implies that "Complex systems do not just arise over time they degrade." you are wrong.
If you think that "Complex systems do not just arise over time they degrade." you ...[text shortened]... case you know you are wrong because I have show it to you before - and you have admitted it.
something else I have missed?
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJayI challenged your claim that you observed that things in general decay and you admitted that it was not in fact true and changed the claim.
You showed me a computer program you wrote didn't you? Was there
something else I have missed?
Kelly
I am sure that I have demonstrated your errors many times in the past, but it is possible it was someone else.
In this case it is quite simple:
Kellys claim: Complex systems do not just arise over time they degrade.
Proof that it is false: My computer is a complex system and it arose over time.
As for the link between entropy and complexity, lets see if you know what they are.
1. Which has a higher entropy, a jar of muddy water or a jar of muddy water which has been left to settle until the water is clear and the mud is in neat layers at the bottom?
2. Which is more complex in 1?
Originally posted by twhiteheadYou computer program didn't just arise you wrote it.
I challenged your claim that you observed that things in general decay and you admitted that it was not in fact true and changed the claim.
I am sure that I have demonstrated your errors many times in the past, but it is possible it was someone else.
In this case it is quite simple:
Kellys claim: Complex systems do not just arise over time they deg ...[text shortened]... the water is clear and the mud is in neat layers at the bottom?
2. Which is more complex in 1?
Your program's did just what you programmed it to do.
You failed in my opinion to prove that point using your program.
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJayWhere did I say "computer program"? You are in such a hurry to avoid my challenge that you don't even read my posts.
You computer program didn't just arise you wrote it.
Your program's did just what you programmed it to do.
You failed in my opinion to prove that point using your program.
Kelly
Can you answer my questions in that post relating to complexity and entropy.
What does 'arise' mean?
Now back to your claim: "Complex systems do not just arise over time they degrade."
1. Is my computer (not computer program), a complex system?
2. Is it degrading over time?
3. Where did it come from?
Originally posted by twhiteheadI post and read more than several posts a day, forgive me if one of
Where did I say "computer program"? You are in such a hurry to avoid my challenge that you don't even read my posts.
Can you answer my questions in that post relating to complexity and entropy.
What does 'arise' mean?
Now back to your claim: "Complex systems do not just arise over time they degrade."
1. Is my computer (not computer program), a complex system?
2. Is it degrading over time?
3. Where did it come from?
the many posts you wrote to me I don't remember. I asked you if
what you were refering to was the computer program because I do not
recall your "proof" you were refering to.
I do read your posts, along with several other people's posts, I do not
put yours to memory, maybe you feel I should, but sorry I do not.
Kelly
Originally posted by NemesioWhere's your answer, KellyJay?
I believe that the human's eye used to be better because of the following
evidence: x, y, z.
I believe that the human's eye is designed with blind spots because if
it had the octopus' physiology it would be worse because of the following
reasons: a, b, c.
I believe that the human eye used to lack blind spots because of the
following reasons: 1, 2, 3.
Nemesio
Originally posted by KellyJayApology accepted.
I post and read more than several posts a day, forgive me if one of
the many posts you wrote to me I don't remember. I asked you if
what you were refering to was the computer program because I do not
recall your "proof" you were refering to.
I do read your posts, along with several other people's posts, I do not
put yours to memory, maybe you feel I should, but sorry I do not.
Kelly
Now are you able to answer my questions?
Originally posted by twhiteheadCan you show me where I admitted that?
Interesting that you put forward as your main reason a word you do not understand and a claim that has been proved false to you multiple times on these forums.
If you think that entropy implies that "Complex systems do not just arise over time they degrade." you are wrong.
If you think that "Complex systems do not just arise over time they degrade." you ...[text shortened]... case you know you are wrong because I have show it to you before - and you have admitted it.
Kelly
Originally posted by twhiteheadYou wrote your computer program; your program did what you
I challenged your claim that you observed that things in general decay and you admitted that it was not in fact true and changed the claim.
I am sure that I have demonstrated your errors many times in the past, but it is possible it was someone else.
In this case it is quite simple:
Kellys claim: Complex systems do not just arise over time they deg ...[text shortened]... the water is clear and the mud is in neat layers at the bottom?
2. Which is more complex in 1?
programmed it to do as it executed the code you put in it. The
code didn’t just happen/arise by itself, you coded it.
Kelly
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Originally posted by KellyJayYour refusal to answer any of his 3 questions is an induction that you either have no answers to his questions or that you just haven’t even bothered to think about them because you don’t want reason to enter the discussion.
You wrote your computer program; your program did what you
programmed it to do as it executed the code you put in it. The
code didn’t just happen/arise by itself, you coded it.
Kelly
You have nothing real to say so why even bother saying anything?