How Creationists date rocks and fossils

Originally posted by RJHinds
The heavy elements probably came from water. And heavy metal came from a mixture of rock, blues, and jazz with increased volume.

"The heavy elements probably came from water. " you say. Then how?
Are you so out of your mind? Or is it just creationistic blabber?

The rest you wrote is just Alzheimer talking. Nonsensical.

Originally posted by FabianFnas
"The heavy elements probably came from water. " you say. Then how?
Are you so out of your mind? Or is it just creationistic blabber?

The rest you wrote is just Alzheimer talking. Nonsensical.

I am not going to give away all the secrets of the universe.

The Near Genius

Originally posted by RJHinds
I am not going to give away all the secrets of the universe.

The Near Genius

That would be because you are talking out your ass. You have no idea how heavy elements came to be, you just think Godidit and that's that.

You don't want to hear about the fact we have CREATED heavy elements in atom smashers and we know EXACTLY how much energy it takes and where that energy abounds, heavy elements are made and that energy abounds in spades inside exploding stars.

But you, in your vast array of self induced ignorance, probably will even deny that stars blow up.

You are pathetic, don't even WANT to know the real world, instead, just stick your head in the sand and repeat goddidit godidit godidit godidit.
I can't hear you I'm sticking my fingers in my ears Nya Nya Nya Nya.
Godidit, godidit, godidit is your mantra.

Originally posted by sonhouse
That would be because you are talking out your ass. You have no idea how heavy elements came to be, you just think Godidit and that's that.

You don't want to hear about the fact we have CREATED heavy elements in atom smashers and we know EXACTLY how much energy it takes and where that energy abounds, heavy elements are made and that energy abounds in spa ...[text shortened]... u I'm sticking my fingers in my ears Nya Nya Nya Nya.
Godidit, godidit, godidit is your mantra.

Water also has atoms, doesn't it?

Originally posted by RJHinds
I am not going to give away all the secrets of the universe.

The Near Genius

So you actually believe that any heavy element can be created from the light elements from water alone? Without the goddidit nonsense?

Let me tell you, Science has already the answer to that question. And that exclude the 6000 old universe crazyness.

Originally posted by FabianFnas
So you actually believe that any heavy element can be created from the light elements from water alone? Without the goddidit nonsense?

Let me tell you, Science has already the answer to that question. And that exclude the 6000 old universe crazyness.

Science is still in the speculation phase on that point.

Originally posted by RJHinds
Science is still in the speculation phase on that point.

Real scientists have refuted ALL your creationist buddies' claims but that doesn't stop them from bringing them up again and again in different video's which is not science, it is politics like I have said before.

Originally posted by sonhouse
Real scientists have refuted ALL your creationist buddies' claims but that doesn't stop them from bringing them up again and again in different video's which is not science, it is politics like I have said before.

The funny thing about RJH class creationists is that they say science is wrong but they don't have anything better themselves.

Example:
Instead of accept the age of the moon, they say that water cooled it down within its 6000 years lifespan. 🙄
Instead of accept the age of the grand Canyon, they say that it has the same process as MtHelen of carving out the landscape in order to make it happen within 6000 years. 🙄
Instead of accepting that heavier elements were produced inside stars, they say that metals is made out of water so the older stars than 6000 years are not needed. 🙄

They use their goddidit so they don't have to explain. Some creationistic science, huh.

I'm happy I'm not a creationist.

Originally posted by RJHinds
Science is still in the speculation phase on that point.

You are really in a fantasy world of your own making since you are officially self lobotomized.

Heavy elements are created in the giant atom smashers all the time so they in fact are way beyond speculation about how heavy elements come about.

They can SEE heavy elements streaming off stars.

I don't suppose you have ever heard of the science of spectrometry, right?

I suppose in your infinite wisdom that too is a bogus science.

Originally posted by FabianFnas
The funny thing about RJH class creationists is that they say science is wrong but they don't have anything better themselves.

Example:
Instead of accept the age of the moon, they say that water cooled it down within its 6000 years lifespan. 🙄
Instead of accept the age of the grand Canyon, they say that it has the same process as MtHelen of carving ...[text shortened]... they don't have to explain. Some creationistic science, huh.

I'm happy I'm not a creationist.

We don't say science is wrong. We say the theory of evolution and making up wild dates of millions and billions of years is not science. It is all speculation and not proven by observable and testable science. It is basically just a belief system that is different from my belief system.

Originally posted by sonhouse
You are really in a fantasy world of your own making since you are officially self lobotomized.

Heavy elements are created in the giant atom smashers all the time so they in fact are way beyond speculation about how heavy elements come about.

They can SEE heavy elements streaming off stars.

I don't suppose you have ever heard of the science of spectrometry, right?

I suppose in your infinite wisdom that too is a bogus science.

You forget that I believe the earth and water and light came before the stars, so seeing heavy elements streaming off stars proves nothing to me.

Originally posted by RJHinds
We don't say science is wrong. We say the theory of evolution and making up wild dates of millions and billions of years is not science. It is all speculation and not proven by observable and testable science. It is basically just a belief system that is different from my belief system.

Objects with ages considerably older than 6,000 years have been observed both on earth and across the universe. The dating methods are quite rigorous. For the most ancient rocks uranium lead ratio testing has an error of the order of 1%, so for a 3 billion year old rock there is an error of the order of 30 million years.

The problem is that you assess a theory based on whether it is consistent with the Bible. This rules out the whole of modern science. The theories these dating methods are based on have been tested and passed the tests. So you do not believe in any science.

Originally posted by DeepThought
Objects with ages considerably older than 6,000 years have been observed both on earth and across the universe. The dating methods are quite rigorous. For the most ancient rocks uranium lead ratio testing has an error of the order of 1%, so for a 3 billion year old rock there is an error of the order of 30 million years.

The problem is that you asse ...[text shortened]... re based on have been tested and passed the tests. So you do not believe in any science.

The % accuracy apparently has to do with the ratio of the isotopes because that is all that can be determined from the spectrometer results. The calculations for age is based on assumptions that everyone knows and therefore can not give a reliable age to the rocks.

Originally posted by RJHinds
The % accuracy apparently has to do with the ratio of the isotopes because that is all that can be determined from the spectrometer results. The calculations for age is based on assumptions that everyone knows and therefore can not give a reliable age to the rocks.

The calculations for age is based on assumptions that everyone knows and therefore can not give a reliable age to the rocks.

Can you please explain to me why everyone knowing something would make it unreliable? I think that's come out garbled and you need to repost.

Originally posted by DeepThought

The calculations for age is based on assumptions that everyone knows and therefore can not give a reliable age to the rocks.

Can you please explain to me why everyone knowing something would make it unreliable? I think that's come out garbled and you need to repost.

Yes, maybe I should not have said everyone knows. It was just an expression of exaggeration.

I posted several assumptions that must be made in radiometric dating somewhere on this forum or maybe it was the Spirituality Forum. It might have been the ones on the age of the earth that were moved from this forum. However, anyone that read that should know.