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How Creationists date rocks and fossils

How Creationists date rocks and fossils

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Originally posted by RJHinds
You forget that I believe the earth and water and light came before the stars, so seeing heavy elements streaming off stars proves nothing to me.
Light came before the stars? Wow! You mean we used to have daytime without the sun? That is amazing! That's probably why we used to live 900 years! Without all of those harmful UV rays, living to 900 would be a sinch!

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Originally posted by iChopWoodForFree
Light came before the stars? Wow! You mean we used to have daytime without the sun? That is amazing! That's probably why we used to live 900 years! Without all of those harmful UV rays, living to 900 would be a sinch!
Stars are not needed to have light. Haven't you ever seen lighting? Don't you know that lighting does not come from stars?

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Originally posted by RJHinds
Yes, maybe I should not have said [b]everyone knows. It was just an expression of exaggeration.

I posted several assumptions that must be made in radiometric dating somewhere on this forum or maybe it was the Spirituality Forum. It might have been the ones on the age of the earth that were moved from this forum. However, anyone that read that should know.[/b]
So your post should have read something along the lines of:
Radiometric dating is based on a set of assumptions about the initial ratios of elements which may be false.
In the same thread, which was in Spirituality, I pointed out that zircon as it crystallizes forces lead atoms out of its crystal lattice, whereas Uranium can replace zirconium atoms in the lattice. This means that one has good reason to believe that the lead content of the zirconium crystal was negligible when it formed. This assertion can be tested in a laboratory. Further, because there are two isotopes of uranium with two different half lives, there are two isotopes of lead formed by its decay, so two ratios can be measured simultaneously to improve the precision of the measurement.


Originally posted by DeepThought
So your post should have read something along the lines of:
Radiometric dating is based on a set of assumptions about the initial ratios of elements which may be false.
In the same thread, which was in Spirituality, I pointed out that zircon as it crystallizes forces lead atoms out of its crystal lattice, whereas Uranium can replace zirconiu ...[text shortened]... decay, so two ratios can be measured simultaneously to improve the precision of the measurement.
That is fine. However, ratios are just ratios and not a clock. It is not accurate to assume you can calculate age based on ratios, in my opinion.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
Stars are not needed to have light. Haven't you ever seen lighting? Don't you know that lighting does not come from stars?
I have seen lighting, I have lighting in my house.

The problem is that the light that comes before the stars in the bible is daylight, so you believe that we had daylight before we had a sun.

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Originally posted by iChopWoodForFree
I have seen lighting, I have lighting in my house.

The problem is that the light that comes before the stars in the bible is daylight, so you believe that we had daylight before we had a sun.
If Eden was a Paradise then of course Adam and Eve had H&C
running water and electric lighting. Besides they needed
electricity to power the tv.

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Originally posted by iChopWoodForFree
I have seen lighting, I have lighting in my house.

The problem is that the light that comes before the stars in the bible is daylight, so you believe that we had daylight before we had a sun.
I was talking about light, not daylight. I don't know how daylight could be on the earth without the sun.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
I was talking about light, not daylight. I don't know how daylight could be on the earth without the sun.
So sunlight, daylight and starlight are different phenomena?


Originally posted by sonhouse
So sunlight, daylight and starlight are different phenomena?
You might say that.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
You might say that.
Tell me more about how they are different.


Originally posted by sonhouse
Tell me more about how they are different.
It is not worth my effort. You can remain willingly ignorant.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
It is not worth my effort. You can remain willingly ignorant.
In other words, just like Dasa, you don't know.


Originally posted by sonhouse
In other words, just like Dasa, you don't know.
Well, the simple answer that you might be able to understand is that sunlight is the light of the sun, daylight is the light we have on earth during the daytime, and starlight is the light of stars.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
Well, the simple answer that you might be able to understand is that sunlight is the light of the sun, daylight is the light we have on earth during the daytime, and starlight is the light of stars.
And according to you they are different things physically.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
Well, the simple answer that you might be able to understand is that sunlight is the light of the sun, daylight is the light we have on earth during the daytime, and starlight is the light of stars.
You really don't know what light is? Really?
And you call yourself a near moron?

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