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Kelly, can anything go faster than light?

Kelly, can anything go faster than light?

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@KellyJay said
What part of we may not have the ability to track it if there were one did you not understand?
Well show me one then. You must have some kind of craft somewhere.


@sonhouse said
Well show me one then. You must have some kind of craft somewhere.
When you measure freq will any device pick up all of them, or do you require some that can monitor freq out of the range of others?

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@KellyJay said
When you measure freq will any device pick up all of them, or do you require some that can monitor freq out of the range of others?
Ok then show me the c+ stuff.


@sonhouse said
Ok then show me the c+ stuff.
Off the web:
Oscilloscopes measure frequency indirectly by calculating the reciprocal of the period from sampled waveform data. This method can be less accurate for very low or very high frequencies, and results depend on sampling rate, trigger stability, and amplitude detection algorithms

What is it you are trying to prove?

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@KellyJay said
Off the web:
Oscilloscopes measure frequency indirectly by calculating the reciprocal of the period from sampled waveform data. This method can be less accurate for very low or very high frequencies, and results depend on sampling rate, trigger stability, and amplitude detection algorithms

What is it you are trying to prove?
What does oscilloscopes have to do with going faster than c?

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@sonhouse said
What does oscilloscopes have to do with going faster than c?
I'm sticking to my points. If we cannot measure it, we cannot know.

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@KellyJay said
I'm sticking to my points. If we cannot measure it, we cannot know.
Sure maybe you don't know but lab results are clear, there is no way for matter to go faster than light, full stop. That does not rule out some interdimensional transport which would not violate relativity. To even GET to c accelerating matter, the closer to c your rocket pushes, the more mass builds up so at c the vehicle would mass as much as the universe. Kind of hard to make a rocket go faster than c because of that pesky relativity thing big Al figured out.
It seems to me if you could flip a bit of spacetime to connect two places together in some kind of open door, it could still violate locality if you were able to choose where and when you did your spacetime bend, if you put the bend so you could theoretically go back in time and kill yourself when you were 6, puts a dent into the idea of independent time travel.

On a music note, I just found out about a reverb setting I didn't know about, predelay, which puts a small time delay on any reverb so the notes on a guitar are clearer without the immediate reverb kicking in. Last two tracks on Soundcloud used 40 milliseconds of predelay. Up to 574 tracks now. the tunes are The Unruly Waltz and Autumn is here, forgoing compression and just relying on the headroom of 24 bit/96K recording.


@sonhouse said
Sure maybe you don't know but lab results are clear, there is no way for matter to go faster than light, full stop. That does not rule out some interdimensional transport which would not violate relativity. To even GET to c accelerating matter, the closer to c your rocket pushes, the more mass builds up so at c the vehicle would mass as much as the universe. Kind of hard to ...[text shortened]... z and Autumn is here, forgoing compression and just relying on the headroom of 24 bit/96K recording.
Fine, full stop, no way you could know if your ability to measure it can not.

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Best thing is to built a spaceship in Earth orbit, and then hope that all the particles comprising the ship make a simultaneous quantum jump to a habitable planet light-years away in precisely the same arrangement as before. The probability of this occurring is greater than zero, is all I can say.

Okay, forget quantum mechanics, let's look at relativity theory. At 99.9999999% the speed of light you could travel from one end of the galaxy to the other (about 100,000 light-years) in just under 4.5 years from your perspective. From the perspective of anyone watching your progress from Earth, however, a bit over 100,000 years would elapse.

The formula is clunky to work with, but this sort of thing can be figured out with this calculator:
https://www.emc2-explained.info/Dilation-Calc/

So the speed of light is not by itself the primary impediment to colonizing the galaxy, it's energy that's the problem—just as it should be. Well, then there's the little issue that a ship cannot accelerate to 99.9999999% the speed of light too fast, or else it would break apart, or kill its passengers. Decelerating has to be gradual, too.

As for a photon, which travels at precisely the speed of light, a trip across the galaxy takes no time whatsoever from its perspective. Time does not flow for a photon, which is a damned mind-bending thing to contemplate. If, hypothetically, anything were to travel within spacetime (and not tunnel through it) faster than c, then it would go backward in time. Or so the story goes.

Of course, there are regions of the universe that even travel at c would never take us to because they are moving away from us at faster than light speed. Relativity only sets a limit on how fast one can travel within space, not how fast space itself can expand.

The simulation hypothesis is bunk, as far as I'm concerned. It takes as axiomatic that consciousness can be generated by digital algorithms. I think Roger Penrose is right in saying that this can be discounted due to the simple fact that the human mind can process concepts that have been mathematically proven to be intrinsically non-algorithmic in nature. AI, for all its clever mimicry and computational power, is ultimately algorithmic.

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@KellyJay said
I'm sticking to my points. If we cannot measure it, we cannot know.
Sure, we cannot know for absolute certain. Absolute certainties are not science's stock in trade. Though, so far, relativity theory seems to hold up impeccably under exhaustive scrutiny. Now, if MOND theory turns out to have something going for it, then that might put a ding in the theory, but MOND's domain of relevance lies entirely in the realm of extremely low gravitational accelerations.

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@KellyJay said
Fine, full stop, no way you could know if your ability to measure it can not.
Sure, no way for YOU to figure ANY of that out, you design SOFTWARE, so whoopee, why do you think you are so much smarter than Phd's who actually study such things for a LIVING?

I KNOW why you refuse to accept anything going faster than light. You think if a GOD can go faster than light because some HUMANS said they were here and such, not very scientific.
You just ASSUME a god actually was so BORED IT TALKED TO HUMANS.
Sure, like I am going to 'talk' to an individual ANT in and ant colony.
Funny how that didn't happen till Christianity was born and earlier versions of a god dominated religion. ALL made 100% by MEN, even some WOMEN. And you Christians, you Muslims, you Jews, you all FKING FELL FOR IT FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS the biggest GRIFT in human history.

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@sonhouse said
Sure, no way for YOU to figure ANY of that out, you design SOFTWARE, so whoopee, why do you think you are so much smarter than Phd's who actually study such things for a LIVING?

I KNOW why you refuse to accept anything going faster than light. You think if a GOD can go faster than light because some HUMANS said they were here and such, not very scientific.
You just ASSU ...[text shortened]... lims, you Jews, you all FKING FELL FOR IT FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS the biggest GRIFT in human history.
Oh please, aren’t you one of those who are always talking about someday someone will solve the issues with evolution, but here, what we know now is all that is required, nothing else could cause us to change our minds.

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@KellyJay said
Oh please, aren’t you one of those who are always talking about someday someone will solve the issues with evolution, but here, what we know now is all that is required, nothing else could cause us to change our minds.
That does settle it, for you, because god exists, faster than light travel is possible, and god did it full stop.

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your light bill to your utility company travels to you faster than light.

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@sonhouse said
That does settle it, for you, because god exists, faster than light travel is possible, and god did it full stop.
You just make stuff up in stead of staying on topic!