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Originally posted by sonhouse
You have made it clear that you are anti-religious, and I hope I have made it clear that I am not anti-science. I am for good science and against bad science, like evilution.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
From May 30th, 2013

A recent meta-analysis of 90 studies on religious private schools, traditional public schools, and charter schools shows that students perform best academically and behaviorally when they attend religious private schools.

http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2013/05/10218/

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You still just don't get it do you! I NEVER LOOK AT YOUR RELIGIOUS PROPAGANDA LINKS! -because I know they are just full of lies and other religious crap. And you have said absolutely nothing there to counterargue anything I said in that post anyway.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
Please keep your religious criticisms out of the Science Forum. The Science Forum is to criticize Science. Take your religious criticisms to the Spirituality Forum so that it can be discussed properly.

The Instructor
In the context of the recent posts in this thread? It seems to be pretty far off topic already.


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324549004579067532485712464.html

A more immediately relevant measure of likely warming has also come down: "transient climate response" (TCR)—the actual temperature change expected from a doubling of carbon dioxide about 70 years from now, without the delayed effects that come in the next century. The new report will say that this change is "likely" to be 1 to 2.5 degrees Celsius and "extremely unlikely" to be greater than 3 degrees. This again is lower than when last estimated in 2007 ("very likely" warming of 1 to 3 degrees Celsius, based on models, or 1 to 3.5 degrees, based on observational studies).

Most experts believe that warming of less than 2 degrees Celsius from preindustrial levels will result in no net economic and ecological damage.

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Originally posted by Eladar
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324549004579067532485712464.html

[b]A more immediately relevant measure of likely warming has also come down: "transient climate response" (TCR)—the actual temperature change expected from a doubling of carbon dioxide about 70 years from now, without the delayed effects that come in the next century. The new re ...[text shortened]... from preindustrial levels will result in no net economic and ecological damage.
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So you figure we can just let things be, business as usual, don't worry, be happy, no problem?


Originally posted by sonhouse
So you figure we can just let things be, business as usual, don't worry, be happy, no problem?
I figure that some people have made a bigger deal out of this than it was worth so they could make some money on it.


Originally posted by sonhouse
So you figure we can just let things be, business as usual, don't worry, be happy, no problem?


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Originally posted by Eladar
Most experts believe that warming of less than 2 degrees Celsius from preindustrial levels will result in no net economic and ecological damage.
Most experts believe that warming of less than 2 degrees Celsius from preindustrial levels
will result in no net economic and ecological damage.


That is a lie. We are ALREADY seeing economic and ecological damage from CURRENT warming.


http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2013/09/16/climate_change_more_nonsense_by_the_mail_on_sunday.html


Originally posted by Eladar
I figure that some people have made a bigger deal out of this than it was worth so they could make some money on it.
Yes sir.

March 2, 2007
As NewsBusters reported here, here, and here, there are huge dollars to be made from global warming alarmism. However, conceivably no one is better positioned to financially benefit from this scam than Dr. Global Warming himself, former Vice President Al Gore, a fact that the media will surely not share with Americans any time soon

http://newsbusters.org/node/11149

Thursday 19 September 2013

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/energy/6491195/Al-Gore-could-become-worlds-first-carbon-billionaire.html

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Originally posted by RJHinds
Yes sir.

March 2, 2007
As NewsBusters reported here, here, and here, there are huge dollars to be made from global warming alarmism. However, conceivably no one is better positioned to financially benefit from this scam than Dr. Global Warming himself, former Vice President Al Gore, a fact that the media will surely not share with Americans any time soo ...[text shortened]... earth/energy/6491195/Al-Gore-could-become-worlds-first-carbon-billionaire.html

The Instructor
Stick your head in the sand all you want, I hope you choke on the dust.

Take a look at this:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/30/world/europe/in-swiss-alps-glacial-melting-unglues-mountains.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

I guess you would go, big frigging deal, so what. Ho hum.


Originally posted by sonhouse
Stick your head in the sand all you want, I hope you choke on the dust.

Take a look at this:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/30/world/europe/in-swiss-alps-glacial-melting-unglues-mountains.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

I guess you would go, big frigging deal, so what. Ho hum.
Global warming stopped 16 years ago, reveals Met Office report quietly released... and here is the chart to prove it

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2217286/Global-warming-stopped-16-years-ago-reveals-Met-Office-report-quietly-released--chart-prove-it.html

Don't Worry, Be Happy. Like ME.

The Instructor

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Originally posted by RJHinds
Global warming stopped 16 years ago, reveals Met Office report quietly released... and here is the chart to prove it

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2217286/Global-warming-stopped-16-years-ago-reveals-Met-Office-report-quietly-released--chart-prove-it.html

Don't Worry, Be Happy. Like ME.

The Instructor
This graph is obviously bogus because it either doesn't come from the met office at all and is a complete fabrication or it is a graph from a met office that has been taken out of context and deliberately mislabeled by climate skeptics for their propaganda reasons. We can be sure about this because if you just Google the actual records from the met office directly yourself and see what they REALLY say and see what the graphs REALLY show, they CLEARLY completely contradict what this graph shows:

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/news/releases/archive/2012/global-temperatures-2012
“This year is on course to be the ninth warmest on record, according to the World Meteorological Organization (WMO). “

-and if you look at THAT graph, it is visually OBVIOUS that the temperature has been rising in recent years. Not only that, but, if you look at the labeling on that graph, you can see it indicates the data has come from several sources INCLUDING the met office and their data fits in with the other sources and they ALL show the same rise in temperature!

Sorry! your link, and its graph, tells a bold faced LIE!

So, DO worry, don't be happy and wrong like RJHinds.


Originally posted by humy
This graph is obviously bogus because it either doesn't come from the met office at all and is a complete fabrication or it is a graph from a met office that has been taken out of context and deliberately mislabeled by climate skeptics for their propaganda reasons. We can be sure about this because if you just Google the actual records from the met office direc ...[text shortened]... and its graph, tells a bold faced LIE!

So, DO worry, don't be happy and wrong like RJHinds.
You can't turn a hair on your head to black by worrying about it now, can you?

Global warming and cooling are cyclic events that have happened throughout the last 4000 years of earth's history. So our worry will not change that.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
You can't turn a hair on your head to black by worrying about it now, can you?

Global warming and cooling are cyclic events that have happened throughout the last 4000 years of earth's history. So our worry will not change that.

The Instructor
Does this mean that you now accept that the global temperatures are going up?

Global warming and cooling are cyclic events that have happened throughout...

warming with natural causes or man-made causes?
So our worry will not change that.

change natural cycles or man-made global warming? -The two don't equate. If “our worry” leads to effective action to stop CO2 emissions then it CAN put a stop to man-made global warming before it goes too far. Nobody here is claiming that we can stop “Global warming and cooling” cyclic events which have natural causes.


Originally posted by humy
Does this mean that you now accept that the global temperatures are going up?

Global warming and cooling are cyclic events that have happened throughout...

warming with natural causes or man-made causes?
So our worry will not change that.

change natural cycles or man-made global warming? -The two don't equate. I ...[text shortened]... ] that we can stop “Global warming and cooling” cyclic events which have natural causes.
I don't believe it is possible to stop all our carbon dioxide emission. I can't see how carbon dioxide is such a big problem. Maybe we should just get rid of all technology and eliminate big city dwelling. That would probably work. Is that what you want?

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