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    22 Sep '13 19:271 edit
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    I don't believe it is possible to stop all our carbon dioxide emission. I can't see how carbon dioxide is such a big problem. Maybe we should just get rid of all technology and eliminate big city dwelling. That would probably work. Is that what you want?

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    I don't believe it is possible to stop all our carbon dioxide emission

    why not? Is is a matter of replacing fossil fuel power with renewable energy -easier said than done and it would be initially difficult and take some time but, still doable.
    Renewable energy technology and energy storage technology is improving all the time. It is just a matter of time before the two improve to the extent of the two combined become economic in all inhabitable zones across the world and then we would really be running out of excuses.
    I can't see how carbon dioxide is such a big problem.

    Just look at the evidence.
    Maybe we should just get rid of all technology and eliminate big city dwelling.

    that's a silly suggestion. Instead, how about replacing, not get rid of our technology, with carbon-neutral technology?
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    23 Sep '13 05:321 edit
    Originally posted by humy
    I don\'t believe it is possible to stop all our carbon dioxide emission

    why not? Is is a matter of replacing fossil fuel power with renewable energy -easier said than done and it would be initially difficult and take some time but, still doable.
    Renewable energy technology and energy storage technology is improving all the time. It is ju ...[text shortened]... ead, how about replacing, not get rid of our technology, with carbon-neutral technology?
    Yes I know, it is all silly. So they measure that the earth temperature has increased about 2 degrees. That does not mean it is going to keep increasing every year. Weather scientists are often wrong when they try to predict temperatures too for ahead of time. I think it is a fraud to get money from the government, which our tax money supports.

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    23 Sep '13 10:53
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Yes I know, it is all silly. So they measure that the earth temperature has increased about 2 degrees. That does not mean it is going to keep increasing every year. Weather scientists are often wrong when they try to predict temperatures too for ahead of time. I think it is a fraud to get money from the government, which our tax money supports.

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    No, you have accepted the republican stance which is to support big business which has bought out the republican party hook line and sinker. They OWN the republicans and its a small wonder they are in it to the death. To the death of the US government, which to my mind is treason pure and simple. They would rather kill the government totally rather than accept Obamacare which BTW was first proposed by the republicans but now that it is identified with the democrats, it is hated. If it had been made law when it was a republican issue, which as passed is almost identical to what the repubs proposed in the first place. You all seem to forget that little tidbit. The repubs should be brought up on charges of treason and thrown out of office.

    If they do manage to shut down the government next week, I have a prediction: They will badly regret it come next election and there will be a democrat controlled house AND senate.

    What comes around goes around. The treasonous republicans will get what they deserve. They WANT to shut down the government as an idealogue gesture. And that is treason.
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    23 Sep '13 18:18
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Yes I know, it is all silly. So they measure that the earth temperature has increased about 2 degrees. That does not mean it is going to keep increasing every year. Weather scientists are often wrong when they try to predict temperatures too for ahead of time. I think it is a fraud to get money from the government, which our tax money supports.

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    Average global temperatures do not fluctuate randomly. An increase in average global temperatures is a worry because it doesn't happen by accident. You are confounding weather science with climate science, which are related, but different. For the weather they are going for a very fine grained prediction that is so difficult due to the non-linear nature of weather systems. For climate predictions they are attempting a far coarser grained prediction. They are after a global average, not the specific temperature in your home town on a given day. Climate predictions are potentially far more reliable than weather forecasts. Whether the current models are any good is another matter, but at least in principle climate models should be able to predict future global conditions with a high degree of precision.
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    23 Sep '13 18:53
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    No, you have accepted the republican stance which is to support big business which has bought out the republican party hook line and sinker. They OWN the republicans and its a small wonder they are in it to the death. To the death of the US government, which to my mind is treason pure and simple. They would rather kill the government totally rather than acc ...[text shortened]... hey deserve. They WANT to shut down the government as an idealogue gesture. And that is treason.
    I support small business. Big businesses can take care of themselves. Democrats support big government. I support small government and the Constitution of the USA.

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    23 Sep '13 18:59
    Originally posted by DeepThought
    Average global temperatures do not fluctuate randomly. An increase in average global temperatures is a worry because it doesn\'t happen by accident. You are confounding weather science with climate science, which are related, but different. For the weather they are going for a very fine grained prediction that is so difficult due to the non-linear natu ...[text shortened]... imate models should be able to predict future global conditions with a high degree of precision.
    At least weather science has some pratical value.

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    23 Sep '13 21:461 edit
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    I support small business. Big businesses can take care of themselves. Democrats support big government. I support small government and the Constitution of the USA.

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    Of course you support small government, it's called abrogation of responsibility. Small government is not interested in the poor, get a job, you ingrate. What, you are blind? Well get a job reading for the blind.

    You want WHAT, a federal loan for your Phd? What is your subject? Evolutionary biology.

    Are you kidding. Everyone knows evolution is EVIL. If you want to study fracking, we have some funds available for that, otherwise buzz off.

    We WILL have funding for a 24% increase in the military and NSA budget however. Don't forget homeland security, they need an extra 300 billion this year, that's a given.

    Money for social security? Don't think so, we are going to privatize that boondoggle. Medicaid, Medicare? We don't care. Let them eat cake.

    We Do have money for farmers growing corn for methanol, there is about 40 billion for that.

    You want to build a WHAT? TELESCOPE to see 14 billion light years away? Are you flapping nuts? The universe is only 6000 light years across. Try Brazil, they are floating in money I hear.
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    24 Sep '13 04:52
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Of course you support small government, it\'s called abrogation of responsibility. Small government is not interested in the poor, get a job, you ingrate. What, you are blind? Well get a job reading for the blind.

    You want WHAT, a federal loan for your Phd? What is your subject? Evolutionary biology.

    Are you kidding. Everyone knows evolution is EVIL. ...[text shortened]... ts? The universe is only 6000 light years across. Try Brazil, they are floating in money I hear.
    I see you have a general idea of a small and limited government with the primary responsibility of defending the Constitution and promoting the general welfare without becoming a socialist government, like it is becoming today. However, your attempt at humor is pathetic.

    All you bleeding heart liberal Democrats want is to destroy this nation and make it poor, by taking from those that have in order to give to the have nots. That strategy only destroys ones desire to achieve. More incentive should be given to those that are willing to work to succeed. Taking it all away from them does not do that. We should encouraging giving through Christian charity. Robbing them to give to the poor only causes resentment. Forced charity is a bad idea.

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    24 Sep '13 10:20
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    I see you have a general idea of a small and limited government with the primary responsibility of defending the Constitution and promoting the general welfare without becoming a socialist government, like it is becoming today. However, your attempt at humor is pathetic.

    All you bleeding heart liberal Democrats want is to destroy this nation and make it ...[text shortened]... hem to give to the poor only causes resentment. Forced charity is a bad idea.

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    Of course the FACT that the rich are WAY richer now on the backs of the poor means zip to you. The FACT of the matter is wages adjusted for inflation are lower than they have been in 40 years. I was doing better in 1974 making 150 bucks a week than I am now making 1000. That is the reality you republicans don't want to admit to.
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    24 Sep '13 11:45
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Of course the FACT that the rich are WAY richer now on the backs of the poor means zip to you. The FACT of the matter is wages adjusted for inflation are lower than they have been in 40 years. I was doing better in 1974 making 150 bucks a week than I am now making 1000. That is the reality you republicans don't want to admit to.
    There is no law against being rich. But there is a law against stealing. You liberal Democrats don't seem to have a problem with stealing from the rich.

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    24 Sep '13 13:20
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    There is no law against being rich. But there is a law against stealing. You liberal Democrats don't seem to have a problem with stealing from the rich.

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    You GODDA be kidding. Republicans have supported big business by being CONTROLLED by big business where for instance, the top 400 wealthiest people in the US are worth well over 1 TRILLION dollars, which came DIRECTLY on the backs of the poor.

    For instance, look at Carlos Slim from Mexico, the richest man in Mexico by far and for a while the richest man on Earth.

    Mexico has something like a population of 50 million. So Slim, being worth 70 BILLION, has taken over 1000 US dollars from EVERY MAN, WOMAN, and CHILD in the entire country.

    And those 400 top richest in the US worth 1200 BILLION together has taken about $3,500 from EVERY man, woman and child in the US. Just think, your family, what, 6 people, have contributed almost 20,000 bucks to those people.

    Doesn't that give you just a LITTLE pause? Did YOU get any of that 20K?
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    Originally posted by sonhouse
    You GODDA be kidding. Republicans have supported big business by being CONTROLLED by big business where for instance, the top 400 wealthiest people in the US are worth well over 1 TRILLION dollars, which came DIRECTLY on the backs of the poor.

    For instance, look at Carlos Slim from Mexico, the richest man in Mexico by far and for a while the richest man ...[text shortened]... cks to those people.

    Doesn't that give you just a LITTLE pause? Did YOU get any of that 20K?
    Well, if they did anything illegal then give the information to the authorities and the news media so everyone will know about it. Then you liberal Democrats might be doing something productive instead of dividing the people and tearing down our economy with all your insame political actions.

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    25 Sep '13 11:01
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Well, if they did anything illegal then give the information to the authorities and the news media so everyone will know about it. Then you liberal Democrats might be doing something productive instead of dividing the people and tearing down our economy with all your insame political actions.

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    Illegal. Now THAT'S a laugh. Republican's, being OWNED by those people set the rules however they want them.

    For instance, now it is looking like the bids for insurance for common folk have dropped 16% in price since Obamacare has come about and will probably go down further. Yet what do we have in congress? Republicans filibustering using Dr Seuss. Talking for days at a time trying to defeat Obamacare, even though the idea was first proposed by republicans.

    I say it again, it is TREASON to try to destroy the US government and that is EXACTLY what repubs are doing, TRYING to force the shutdown of government over a health plan that is already showing to be saving people money. OF COURSE republicans will be against that since they are OWNED by the insurance companies who don't want to lose their monopoly on health. They LOVE that trillion dollar income and will fight it tooth and nail and their crones, the republicans who have been thoroughly bought out and OWNED by insurance and oil, follow their wishes right down the line. SCREW the common folk, I have a billionaire to support.
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    25 Sep '13 21:05
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Illegal. Now THAT'S a laugh. Republican's, being OWNED by those people set the rules however they want them.

    For instance, now it is looking like the bids for insurance for common folk have dropped 16% in price since Obamacare has come about and will probably go down further. Yet what do we have in congress? Republicans filibustering using Dr Seuss. Tal ...[text shortened]... follow their wishes right down the line. SCREW the common folk, I have a billionaire to support.
    The Republicans have approved a budget that funds all of government except Obamacare. So it is up to the Democrats and Obama if the government is shut down or not. Obamacare was delayed before and it can be delayed again. So there is really no threat of government shutdown, if the Democrats will come to their senses and delay Obamacare another year.

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