1. Standard memberavalanchethecat
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    04 Jul '10 17:23
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    As far as I am aware "lactose intolerance" is not a YES or NO ... its a whole spectrum. All of us, including those with the mutation, do not process lactose the same way a baby does. If you think about it drinking milk after weaning is weird (does any other animal do it in the wild?) and drinking milk of another species is even weirder!

    Now where's my Stilton and Port ...?
    My fat ba**ard of a cat still drinks (cows'😉 milk and he's nearly 20. I suppose he's not really what you call wild, although he does get quite savage when I give him a bath.
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    04 Jul '10 17:261 edit
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    Lactose.

    Its only recently that humans have 'mutated' and developed the ability to maintain lactose digesting enzymes (although the ability to digest lactose decreases from 3 yrs onwards). Most of the world population continue to show some level of lactose intolerance. Its poison!

    Why milk products taste so good I dont know!
    It depends on your racial/ethnic background I think. North Europeans can drink it no problem I think. Indians too.
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    04 Jul '10 17:30
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    It depends on your racial/ethnic background I think. North Europeans can drink it no problem I think.
    Populations who were, or who still are, pastoralists generally have no problem. 50-90% in Europe, the Middle East and Africa. 1-20% in African and Asian populations that rely on agriculture rather than milk.
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    04 Jul '10 17:54
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    That interesting. What is unhealthy about milk?
    It's very fatty and consumption of milk has been linked to bone weakness.
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    04 Jul '10 17:562 edits
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    It's very fatty and consumption of milk has been linked to bone weakness.
    That's reason i drink the stuff, i want the fat.

    You're not under the misapprehension that all fats are bad for you are you?
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    04 Jul '10 18:22
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    It's very fatty
    So its only 'bad' for you if you have a weight problem.

    ...and consumption of milk has been linked to bone weakness.
    References? I thought the calcium was good for you.

    Certainly here in Africa, it is considered very nutritious.
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    04 Jul '10 19:001 edit
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    It's very fatty and consumption of milk has been linked to bone weakness.
    Consumption of milk linked to bone weakness? I seriously doubt that. Time to use Y! Search.

    EDIT - Here's what I got so far:

    http://www.notmilk.com/a-z.txt
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    04 Jul '10 23:23
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    In some cases, yes, but I suspect that in the vast majority of cases, no.
    Lets discuss it. What reasons can you suggest for people buying bottled water?
    I find them useful and handy, and I can use the containers.
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    05 Jul '10 02:59
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    So its only 'bad' for you if you have a weight problem.

    [b]...and consumption of milk has been linked to bone weakness.

    References? I thought the calcium was good for you.

    Certainly here in Africa, it is considered very nutritious.[/b]
    The calcium myth has been promoted by the milk industry. Fact is that calcium is peed away with high protein diets. Low protein diet you dont lose any calcium. High protein diets and you need LOTS of Calcium.

    Milk is kinda neutral.

    Soya milk and rice milk with added calcium are better alternatives.
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    05 Jul '10 03:44
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    The calcium myth has been promoted by the milk industry. Fact is that calcium is peed away with high protein diets. Low protein diet you dont lose any calcium. High protein diets and you need LOTS of Calcium.

    Milk is kinda neutral.

    Soya milk and rice milk with added calcium are better alternatives.
    And don't forget the role of Vitamin D...
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    05 Jul '10 07:36
    Originally posted by PinkFloyd
    I find them useful and handy, and I can use the containers.
    You do know that you could buy the containers at a fraction of the price?
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    05 Jul '10 21:42
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    You do know that you could buy the containers at a fraction of the price?
    Sure, but since I also find what's IN the containers to be useful (not to mention storable), might as well buy both.
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    05 Jul '10 23:29
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    You do know that you could buy the containers at a fraction of the price?
    You know, there are "generic" bottle waters that are really cheap in most supermarkets.
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    06 Jul '10 06:57
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    You know, there are "generic" bottle waters that are really cheap in most supermarkets.
    If bottled water is practically free, then I have no argument - except the plastic waste.
    Here in SA, it costs about the same as a soft drink and is far from free and way more than tap water and the containers. The one advantage is that it is chilled, and it is not always that easy to carry chilled water with you. But some people buy bottled water for home use.

    What does the bottled water in the OP cost? What was the argument against that?
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    06 Jul '10 07:19
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    If bottled water is practically free, then I have no argument - except the plastic waste.
    Here in SA, it costs about the same as a soft drink and is far from free and way more than tap water and the containers. The one advantage is that it is chilled, and it is not always that easy to carry chilled water with you. But some people buy bottled water for home use.

    What does the bottled water in the OP cost? What was the argument against that?
    That's an obnoxious advertising campaign and product name!
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