1. Standard memberIchibanov
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    24 Mar '08 18:41
    Dune has a pretty serious problem right now due to our clan leader being banned from the forums. Right now, forum bans seems to include the private forums as well as the public, making management of clan matters extremely difficult. As an example, we have 4 consult games running through his account and handle discussions of these games in the private clan forum.

    I'd suggest bans by forum admins be limited to the public forums only. I just don't see the point in having such a ban extend to the private clan forum.
  2. In your face
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    24 Mar '08 22:35
    Originally posted by Ichibanov
    Dune has a pretty serious problem right now due to our clan leader being banned from the forums. Right now, forum bans seems to include the private forums as well as the public, making management of clan matters extremely difficult. As an example, we have 4 consult games running through his account and handle discussions of these games in the private clan ...[text shortened]... forums only. I just don't see the point in having such a ban extend to the private clan forum.
    Seconded!
  3. Standard membercaissad4
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    25 Mar '08 01:33
    Originally posted by Ichibanov
    Dune has a pretty serious problem right now due to our clan leader being banned from the forums. Right now, forum bans seems to include the private forums as well as the public, making management of clan matters extremely difficult. As an example, we have 4 consult games running through his account and handle discussions of these games in the private clan ...[text shortened]... forums only. I just don't see the point in having such a ban extend to the private clan forum.
    I agree completely!!!
  4. Subscriberhuckleberryhound
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    25 Mar '08 01:36
    I disagree.

    Forum banning is a punishment.


    Suck it up, big boy 😛
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    25 Mar '08 06:05
    Originally posted by Ichibanov
    Dune has a pretty serious problem right now due to our clan leader being banned from the forums. Right now, forum bans seems to include the private forums as well as the public, making management of clan matters extremely difficult. As an example, we have 4 consult games running through his account and handle discussions of these games in the private clan ...[text shortened]... forums only. I just don't see the point in having such a ban extend to the private clan forum.
    Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. May we all learn from this example and avoid the hardships associated with a forum ban, as it may hurt others as well as ourselves.
  6. Standard memberRagnorak
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    25 Mar '08 10:19
    Originally posted by Ichibanov
    Dune has a pretty serious problem right now due to our clan leader being banned from the forums.
    I'd recommend your clan leader keeps his bigotry to himself from now on. If he must post disparaging comments about a user's sexuality and the mods remove them, then I'd recommend he doesn't repost them.

    Arrakis knew what he was doing when he reposted his vitriol. Maybe next time, he might think of his clan before reposting filth.

    I disagree with your idea. It's incredibly easy not to get banned on here. If somebody doesn't want to act with even a shred of decency, then they deserve their punishment. End of.

    D
  7. Standard memberKorch
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    25 Mar '08 12:32
    Originally posted by Ragnorak
    I'd recommend your clan leader keeps his bigotry to himself from now on. If he must post disparaging comments about a user's sexuality and the mods remove them, then I'd recommend he doesn't repost them.

    Arrakis knew what he was doing when he reposted his vitriol. Maybe next time, he might think of his clan before reposting filth.

    I disagree with yo ...[text shortened]... ant to act with even a shred of decency, then they deserve their punishment. End of.

    D
    Seconded.

    Unability to post in private forums will be good stimulation to learn good behavior in public ones.
  8. Standard memberPalynka
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    25 Mar '08 12:42
    Originally posted by Ragnorak
    I'd recommend your clan leader keeps his bigotry to himself from now on. If he must post disparaging comments about a user's sexuality and the mods remove them, then I'd recommend he doesn't repost them.

    Arrakis knew what he was doing when he reposted his vitriol. Maybe next time, he might think of his clan before reposting filth.

    I disagree with yo ...[text shortened]... ant to act with even a shred of decency, then they deserve their punishment. End of.

    D
    Well said. I also agree with Korch's comment above.
  9. Standard memberSmiffy
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    25 Mar '08 13:42
    I agree with rag and korch also 🙂......i notice all the dune people want the ban to be up lifted but like korch said it will make your leader behave in future 🙂
  10. THORNINYOURSIDE
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    25 Mar '08 16:071 edit
    Originally posted by Ichibanov
    Dune has a pretty serious problem right now due to our clan leader being banned from the forums. Right now, forum bans seems to include the private forums as well as the public, making management of clan matters extremely difficult. As an example, we have 4 consult games running through his account and handle discussions of these games in the private clan forums only. I just don't see the point in having such a ban extend to the private clan forum.
    Why worry?

    Arrakis, Red Knight and Lolette are all leaving RHP anyway. (According to Lolette that is!)

    Just get him to rescind leadership to someone who wants it and problem solved.

    As to consult games, the rest of clan can discuss them in the Private Forum as normal and then you could PM the outcome to Arrakis. If he disagrees he can PM his thoughts back and you add them to Private Forum.
  11. The sky
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    25 Mar '08 18:30
    Originally posted by Ragnorak
    It's incredibly easy not to get banned on here.
    I agree with the rest of your post, but this simply isn't true.
  12. Standard memberRagnorak
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    25 Mar '08 18:59
    Originally posted by Nordlys
    I agree with the rest of your post, but this simply isn't true.
    Wasn't your one (and only? ) ban for repeatedly posting a link to a site dedicated to a 4 letter word? I think that could easily have been avoided, if you stopped and thought before reposting a removed post.

    Do you think it is acceptable to post links to porn sites on here? Same difference.

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  13. The sky
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    25 Mar '08 19:32
    Originally posted by Ragnorak
    Wasn't your one (and only? ) ban for repeatedly posting a link to a site dedicated to a 4 letter word? I think that could easily have been avoided, if you stopped and thought before reposting a removed post.

    Do you think it is acceptable to post links to porn sites on here? Same difference.

    D
    I am not going to go into that again, just wanted to make a point. It wasn't my only ban, I got two others. They all came as a surprise, although in the two other cases I was aware that what I was doing might not be appreciated (even though I didn't expect it to be severe enough to merit a ban, and at that point I also wasn't aware that bans were given without a warning), so I could have avoided those. In the case you refer to, I honestly had no idea that anyone could find it offensive or that it might be against the rules. I won't make that exact mistake again, but I can't see how I can be sure to avoid posting something else that may be regarded as banworthy. It's probably easier if you have grown up in an English-speaking country.

    And how you can find a porn site and an etymology site equally offensive is completely beyond me...
  14. Standard membernmdavidb
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    25 Mar '08 20:46
    Originally posted by Ragnorak
    I'd recommend your clan leader keeps his bigotry to himself from now on. If he must post disparaging comments about a user's sexuality and the mods remove them, then I'd recommend he doesn't repost them.

    Arrakis knew what he was doing when he reposted his vitriol. Maybe next time, he might think of his clan before reposting filth.

    I disagree with yo ...[text shortened]... ant to act with even a shred of decency, then they deserve their punishment. End of.

    D
    Yet we let others run amuck...to spout hatred and attack only certain individuals?

    I cannot speak on Arrakis's behalf of what he posted...because i never got to see it...but there is a weird bias here about what is accepted and what is not.

    Sometimes the same thing that is accepted in one forum is deleted in another.

    Sometimes a forum ban for saying one thing by a certain person...is overlooked by another saying it.

    There should be a strict set of guidelines covering these things...to be judged ( damn I keep saying this ) without passion or prejudice.

    The game mod thread got so clogged up with crap that it was unreadable. But yet people, PAYING CUSTOMERS, have the right to voice their opinion.

    I think being a Mod would mean that you have to be a person of integrity...that you think of the site before your own personal agenda.

    As for Arrakis getting banned from both public and private forums...why would anyone care that is not in his clan about the private forums? You don't have to read it. It means nothing to you.

    If he did wrong in public then he should be charged in PUBLIC. Private matters are exactly what that states...private.

    That is like getting a ticket for smoking in a restaraunt but the other stipulation is you can't smoke in your own home.

    I know alot of you are from across the pond...but our Declaration and Bill of Rights mean alot to me...I look up from my computer and see them on my wall. I have two nice copies 🙂

    All I am saying in this is that we need to step back and reevaluate the mod system and how it works...because if noone else has noticed...there are probs in both camps.
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Dave
  15. Standard memberKorch
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    25 Mar '08 21:12
    Originally posted by nmdavidb
    Yet we let others run amuck...to spout hatred and attack only certain individuals?

    I cannot speak on Arrakis's behalf of what he posted...because i never got to see it...but there is a weird bias here about what is accepted and what is not.

    Sometimes the same thing that is accepted in one forum is deleted in another.

    Sometimes a forum ban for sayin ...[text shortened]... ne else has noticed...there are probs in both camps.
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Dave
    Your dissafisfaction with mod system is beside the point.

    About punishment: Taking into account that some persons has been banned regulary and has obvious problems to behave I think that decreasing punishment will only encourage them to continue their antisocial behavior.
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