Originally posted by robbie carrobieJesus didn't refute the eternal soul or reincarnation or absence from meat eating, he taught these things ,and they killed him for it....because it went against false Jewish teachings.
i do not believe in eternal torment in a fiery hell, what is more, it isn't even a Biblical teaching, but i am not surprised you dont know that, for how could you without having studied it.
why are some people deformed at birth?, because of genetic imperfection, or complications during the birth process. For that is what sin means, imperfection, ...[text shortened]... Karma explains nothing in this regard.
Jesus Christ himself plainly refuted the doctrine.
Where are all the missing scripture that they left out of the Bible?
The Bible has been teaching that non Christians will burn in hell since it was written.........what about theses verses:
Dan 3:6 " And who ever does not fall down and worship shall be cast immediately into the midst of the fiery furnace."
and
Rev 20:15 " And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire"
and
Mathew 25:46 " " And they will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous (Christians) will gain eternal life"
So do you know your own Bible, or are you being dishonest about this.
The Bible was written by the corrupt ruling class politicians, and they changed the words of Jesus to fit in with the Old Testament.......everyone knows this.
Originally posted by vishvahetuYou haven't answered my question about eating carrot contra meat yet. Have you forgotten, or is it a too difficult question for you?
Jesus didn't refute the eternal soul or reincarnation or absence from meat eating, he taught these things ,and they killed him for it....because it went against false Jewish teachings.
Where are all the missing scripture that they left out of the Bible?
The Bible has been teaching that non Christians will burn in hell since it was written.........wh ...[text shortened]... y changed the words of Jesus to fit in with the Old Testament.......everyone knows this.
Do you want me to repeat the question?
Originally posted by vishvahetufire has always been a symbol of destruction, not of torment. Christ being a Jew would have eaten the sacrificial lamb along with bitter greens at the celebration of the passover, which Jews celebrate to this very day, he would also have drank wine.
Jesus didn't refute the eternal soul or reincarnation or absence from meat eating, he taught these things ,and they killed him for it....because it went against false Jewish teachings.
Where are all the missing scripture that they left out of the Bible?
The Bible has been teaching that non Christians will burn in hell since it was written.........wh ...[text shortened]... y changed the words of Jesus to fit in with the Old Testament.......everyone knows this.
As for your assertions about a corrupt ruling class, i have asked you on no fewer than four occasions to provide evidence of it and so far we are bereft! i gave up asking.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieJesus wasn't a Jew.......he was of the higher consciousness and didn't identify as a Jew, so they killed him.
fire has always been a symbol of destruction, not of torment. Christ being a Jew would have eaten the sacrificial lamb along with bitter greens at the celebration of the passover, which Jews celebrate to this very day, he would also have drank wine.
As for your assertions about a corrupt ruling class, i have asked you on no fewer than four occasions to provide evidence of it and so far we are bereft! i gave up asking.
Jew is just a label, and he wasn't into being labeled because he knew he was an eternal spiritual being...not a Jew or anything else.
The Jewish teachings are mostly false and fabricated....and when God is suppose to be talking to Moses in "Numbers" and " Leviticus" its not the Supreme Lord at all, but some fabricated nonsense spoken by man.
Fire is not meant to mean destruction........it would then say the lake of destruction instead of fire, which makes no sense.
Jesus didn't eat meat....its a lie so you can kill animals and eat them yourself.
The Bible is not the authority and it never was, because its full of false teachings, and doesn't even know of the eternal soul which it says is created at birth, which is false.
The soul is eternal, meaning it has no beginning or end, so if it was created at birth........thats a beginning.
Originally posted by vishvahetuChrist was a Jew, his mother was Jewish, he observed Jewish customs, he celebrated Jewish festivals, his name is a Jewish name, his lineage is made up entirely of Hebrews and Hebrew proselytes, he instructed others to keep Jewish laws, he died with the appellation, King of the Jews, why?, because he was a barbarian, a Greek, a Phonecian, a submarine commander or a Zeppelin pilot. Look Vishy the soup dragon is calling you from the moon, the clangers want you to exhibit your star spangled rainbow trout on galactic television, while the singing ringing tree chimes in harmony!
Jesus wasn't a Jew.......he was of the higher consciousness and didn't identify as a Jew, so they killed him.
Jew is just a label, and he wasn't into being labeled because he knew he was an eternal spiritual being...not a Jew or anything else.
The Jewish teachings are mostly false and fabricated....and when God is suppose to be talking to Moses in ...[text shortened]... oesn't even know of the eternal soul which it says is created at birth, which is false.
evidence that Christ was not a Jew, none
evidence that the bible is full of false teachings, none,
evidence that Christ did not eat meat, none,
as for the lake of fire, both death and hades are thrown into them, difficult for literal death and hades to be thrown into a literal fire, ever heard of a symbol Vishy, you know, something that is symbolic, that represents something other than its literal interpretation?
Originally posted by vishvahetuFor you I will gladly repeat my question, because I know that you have many things in your head, and sometimes you have difficulties to separate them from eachother.
What question?
You wrote: "Carrots and bacteria are not highly sentient beings."
And my question(s) is/are:
But it contains life when you have to kill the poor carrots in order to eat them. Life is spiritual. Ergo: You destroy spiritual life.
A carrot cell is as full of life as any cell of your Gluteus Maximus. A cell of your Gluteus Maximus is not aware of being eaten, your Gluteus Maximus cells are not highly sentient beings either. In this respect, a piece of carrot and a piece of your Gluteus Maximus can be concidered be the same in this respect. Do you mind to eat a piece of your Gluteus Maximus?
Or are your Gluteus Maximus just of higher spiritual life in comparison to a carrot?
Originally posted by FabianFnasBecause our species is in transition.
Homosexual is not transitional. Not for individuals, not for humankind.
Homosexual is a part of nature. Every mammal has homosexuality within their specie. Why should it be transisional in our specie?
Ever heard of "The Spike" ? Its a book written by a scientist.
The basic premise is that we will get to a point (the spike) where no one will be able to predict what will come next in human evoltution.
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Originally posted by FabianFnasThe basic explanation is that the karma incurred from eating vegetables is much less than that from eating animals.
For you I will gladly repeat my question, because I know that you have many things in your head, and sometimes you have difficulties to separate them from eachother.
You wrote: "Carrots and bacteria are not highly sentient beings."
And my question(s) is/are:
But it contains life when you have to kill the poor carrots in order to eat them. Life is ...[text shortened]... imus?
Or are your Gluteus Maximus just of higher spiritual life in comparison to a carrot?
It is said that the karma incurred from eating vegetables can be "worked off" in much, much less time than the karma from eating animals.
Originally posted by FabianFnasYou completely misunderstand because the carrot that you see, is dust in the wind.....and it grows because the soul is present in the vine.
For you I will gladly repeat my question, because I know that you have many things in your head, and sometimes you have difficulties to separate them from eachother.
You wrote: "Carrots and bacteria are not highly sentient beings."
And my question(s) is/are:
But it contains life when you have to kill the poor carrots in order to eat them. Life is ...[text shortened]... imus?
Or are your Gluteus Maximus just of higher spiritual life in comparison to a carrot?
When the carrot is eaten the vine lives.
But when the vine dies, the soul that was animating the vine moves on to another birth..... so there is no death for the soul.
I have told you before that the soul is eternal and indestructible....dont you listen.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieJesus was born in a Jewish family, but he doesn't identify with the Jewish people or faith, because its all nonsense.
Christ was a Jew, his mother was Jewish, he observed Jewish customs, he celebrated Jewish festivals, his name is a Jewish name, his lineage is made up entirely of Hebrews and Hebrew proselytes, he instructed others to keep Jewish laws, he died with the appellation, King of the Jews, why?, because he was a barbarian, a Greek, a Phonecian, a submarine ...[text shortened]... ow, something that is symbolic, that represents something other than its literal interpretation?
Jesus has the higher spiritual consciousness, because when he was young he traveled and studied the Vedic teachings of the true spiritual life, and then returned much later in his life to preach.
And because they were threatened by his authority and knowledge of the spiritual life,they killed him.........then when the politicians and King Constantine wrote the Bible, they changed all the teachings of Jesus to support the false teachings of the Old Testament, and they turned the man Jesus into a God to trick the people into thinking that Jesus was the one true Lord.
But the father in heaven is the one true Lord.
There is only one true bona fide spiritual teaching......Vedanta Sutra, which has been with mankind for millions of years, and is the original religion and was present long before Christianity was fabricated.
'Any religion that supports meat eating is bogus, and forces the people to take another birth in this temporary material world.......again and again.
Originally posted by vishvahetuI believe that RC actually asked for proof. I know this is a difficult concept for you.
Jesus was born in a Jewish family, but he doesn't identify with the Jewish people or faith, because its all nonsense.
Jesus has the higher spiritual consciousness, because when he was young he traveled and studied the Vedic teachings of the true spiritual life, and then returned much later in his life to preach.
And because they were threatened by ...[text shortened]... orces the people to take another birth in this temporary material world.......again and again.
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Originally posted by karoly aczelSo should we eat sand and rocks to incur the least karma? Or should we starve ourselves to death?
The basic explanation is that the karma incurred from eating vegetables is much less than that from eating animals.
It is said that the karma incurred from eating vegetables can be "worked off" in much, much less time than the karma from eating animals.