Originally posted by Startreaderyou never address anything, you make claims about the religion of others and when called to substantiate those of your own you runaway.
This is an area I know something about, and you, Robbie, though you tell me you are not and never have been an elder, are coming up with the standard responses approved by the Watchtower.
Predictable as it was, your inevitable casting of accusations at the Catholic Church was out of date and wide of the mark. Anyone who bothers to inform themselves k ...[text shortened]... ing to address child abuse in the Watchtower right now. Others who know much more than I do may.
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Originally posted by FMFstrawman no one has claimed they are responsible and again you are caught fabricating values. so far you have been caught making assumptions, loading your questions, making strawman arguments.
Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Why don't you start a thread about sexual abuse of children within religious organisations and see how many Catholics choose to defend - in principle - covering up the rape of children by members of their religious organisation?
Like I said, Startreader is surely no more responsible for the sex abuse uncovered i ...[text shortened]... he abuse of children by members of his Catholic church~ or do you think he is likely to do that?
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Originally posted by FMFJust to avoid misunderstanding, at risk of repeating myself, I am not and have never been a JW, and nor have any of my family or extended family.
You said "It depends whether they have deviated from the teaching of Christ." So I asked for examples of an ex-JW-now-Catholic having "deviated" so much so that you'd fear having them in your house. It's not a loaded question; it's a point blank response to what you posted.
I don't want and didn't want to know them. But I do. In detail. And depth. Unfortunately.
Originally posted by StartreaderI have known six JWs pretty well ~ four of them (two married couples) very well indeed.
Just to avoid misunderstanding, at risk of repeating myself, I am not and have never been a JW, and nor have any of my family or extended family.
I don't want and didn't want to know them. But I do. In detail. And depth. Unfortunately.
Originally posted by Startreaderyou were telling the forum about us upholding Biblical principles of disfelowshipping, were you not? Why you are chastising us for it, were you not?
Just to avoid misunderstanding, at risk of repeating myself, I am not and have never been a JW, and nor have any of my family or extended family.
I don't want and didn't want to know them. But I do. In detail. And depth. Unfortunately.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieWhileon one hand you have argued in favour of covering up child sex abuse in the JW organisation, I don't think Startreader is likely to defend - even in principle - the covering up of abuse of children by members of her Catholic church.
strawman no one has claimed they are responsible and again you are caught fabricating values. so far you have been caught making assumptions, loading your questions, making strawman arguments.
Do you think she might?
Originally posted by FMFanother loaded question, no one has feared anything. If the best you have to proffer is dishonesty and loading questions then please spare me i find you tedious enough as it is.
Which of the doctrinal disagreements at that link would make you fear having a Catholic in your house lest you be participating in "evil"?
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Originally posted by FMFanother assumption of guilt and a loaded statement, i have not favored covering up of child abuse and thats it for you, you will now be ignored for I find your lie offensive. Please do not try to correspond with me any further I have nothing to say to you.
Whileon one hand you have argued in favour of covering up child sex abuse in the JW organisation, I don't think Startreader is likely to defend - even in principle - the covering up of abuse of children by members of his Catholic church.
Do you think he might?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou opt for quotes and then stonewall questions asking about real life examples. This sounds like a person writing himself a blank cheque to abuse people he has doctrinal disagreements with.
you were telling the forum about us upholding Biblical principles of disfelowshipping, were you not? Why you are chastising us for it, were you not?
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieUnlike you, who apparently sit all day in the centre of your web on these forums, doing nothing but trying to reign supreme, some of us have lives to lead and work to do.
you never address anything, you make claims about the religion of others and when called to substantiate those of your own you runaway.
I never run away. I do, however, and reserve the right to continue to choose not to be manipulated by you or be goaded into a hasty response. You have no right to issue the peremptory orders that you do, and eventually, please God, you will have your comeuppance.
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Originally posted by Startreaderyou have run away twice, you seem to think that you can come here make serious accusations and simply run away. If you cannot substantiate your claims then why have you made them? Do you normally make claims that you cannot substantiate and then run away when called to do so? You are like those people that shout abuse from the comfort of their cars knowing that they can drive away at any moment.
Unlike you, who apparently sit all day in the centre of your web on these forums, doing nothing but trying to rein supreme, some of us have lives to lead and work to do.
I never run away. I do, however, and reserve the right to continue to choose not to be manipulated by you or be goaded into a hasty response. You have no right to issue the peremptory orders that you do, and eventually, please God, you will have your comeuppance.