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Originally posted by Startreaderwow another flunkie, just what he needs. Maybe you could knit him a jumper once you have finished that V neck for Vespin.
FMF, I don't know you at all, but it seems you have scored Game, Set and Match against Mr Carrobie.
Well done. Exemplary.
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Originally posted by StartreaderYou were telling us about the trinity, were you not 😀
An enticing thought, Divegeester! I'll look in from time to time, perhaps, but to be honest, I'm disinclined to debate here very much. I'll return to the cut and thrust and fun of the Clan forum.
Originally posted by FMFThis is simply an attempt to attack his credentials. If you have anything to say about the content of his book and the conclusion he draws from his ability as a translator let it be heard but these R J Hinds type of attacks simply don't cut it.
Is Jason BeDuhn a Greek specialist, robbie? I see that he is Associate Professor of Religious Studies in the Department of Humanities, Arts, and Religion, at Northern Arizona University. So linguistics is not his speciality.
His profile at wikipedia doesn't mention the word "Greek". His personal page at his university doesn't mention the word "Greek".
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http://nau.edu/CAL/CCS/Faculty-and-Staff/Beduhn/
http://jan.ucc.nau.edu/~jdb8/jason-cv1.htm
Originally posted by Startreaderso you cannot substantiate your assertions, well at least you can knit jumpers.
I've thought and prayed a lot about your question during the day. It's not a true question, despite the question mark. It's a confrontational challenge.
On such a very serious matter I'm not going to enter into any debate with you. Others here may wish to, though I see that many of the vocal contributors don't themselves believe in the Trinity. Maybe ...[text shortened]... omised you an answer and my answer, knowing you will jeer but anyway, after much prayer, is No.
Originally posted by FMFI don't make anything of it, if you have a point you would like to make concerning the specific scriptures then do so.
Jason BeDuhn draws attention to the NWT translators' decision not to use "Jehovah" in 2 Thessalonians 1:9; 1 Peter 2:3; and 1 Peter 3:15. What do you make of that?
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-Removed-I see then perhaps you will explain the numerous references I made to it when debating with R J Hinds and Suzzianne. Or we could simply believe your lies? Once again your windbaggery is exposed for what it is, the usual empty hollow insinuations of a man devoid of both substance and reason and incapable of rational thought. Essentially a brain dead zombie that slobbers and drools his way across cyber space. Evidence gets bozos like you every time.
-Removed-The idea that one should be able to memorise and recall every book one reads and especially a book as involved as Truth in Translation Accuracy and bias in English translation of the New testament is ludicrous. Thankyou for demonstrating how unreasonable you really are.
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-Removed-I will not be taking any advice from someone as scripturally illiterate as you. Please dont offer me anymore advice your ignorace is an afront to the senses and your hatred and prejudices nauseating. Do not try to engage me I am simply unwilling to entertain you any further.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieShunning is just one of the Watchtower's foul practices but it's one that shatters families. In my small circle of acquaintance I know several families thus damaged. If that's the case in a very small area then how great must be the worldwide effect. It's an evil organisation, whose members are brainwashed into calling it the Truth but it's one mighty Lie founded upon lies.
I will not be taking any advice from someone as scripturally illiterate as you. Please dont offer me anymore advice your ignorace is an afront to the senses and your hatred and prejudices nauseating. Do not try to engage me I am simply unwilling to entertain you any further.
Originally posted by StartreaderI see you will not tell us about the trinity and you cannot substantiate any of your own beliefs but you found it expedient to comment on the evils of another religion. We wont talk of course about the rampant sexual abuse among the clergy of Catholicism which has wrecked the lives of thousands, possibly tens of thousands of young people nor the horrendous torture perpetrated by the Catholic church during inquisitions, no instead we shall listen to your hollow words and rampant hypocrisy.
Shunning is just one of the Watchtower's foul practices but it's one that shatters families. In my small circle of acquaintance I know several families thus damaged. If that's the case in a very small area then how great must be the worldwide effect. It's an evil organisation, whose members are brainwashed into calling it the Truth but it's one mighty Lie founded upon lies.
Fine, let us discuss the Biblically established practice of removing persons who are willful sinners and unrepentant wrongdoers from the congregation and in shunning them. You may find the principles here and because of your religious bias, personal hatred of Jehovahs Witnesses i shall use a neutral translation.
1. God will judge those outside. "Expel the wicked person from among you." 1 Corinthinas 5:13
2. Anyone who goes too far and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God; the one who abides in the teaching, he has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house, and do not give him a greeting for the one who gives him a greeting participates in his evil deed. - 2 John 1:10
You will now tell the forum why you are chastising Jehovah's Witnesses for upholding these Biblical standards.