Spirituality
01 May 15
01 May 15
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Originally posted by RJHindsI'm not watching your links. Can you explain what your reasoning is in one or two sentences?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L72h2R4FO0k
Scientific Evidence for a Young Earth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PY0zzh8G3c
I'm not asking you to prove it to me and I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you - i'm looking for why YOU believe this, specifically evidence from the Bible.
01 May 15
Originally posted by divegeesterGenesis 5:3 gives the age of Adam when he became the father of Seth and Genesis 5:6 gives the age of Seth when he became the father of Enosh and so forth. Biblical scholars have added these ages and followed the timeline revealed in the Holy Bible until they were able to reach a point in time that is also recorded in secular history and down to the time of Christ Jesus and determined it was about 4,000 years. From Christ to the present has been determined to be about another 2,000 years which totals 6,000 years. And if the word "day" really means a 24 hour day in the creation story, then the earth is also only about 6,000 years old. 😏
I'm not watching your links. Can you explain what your reasoning is in one or two sentences?
I'm not asking you to prove it to me and I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you - i'm looking for why YOU believe this, specifically evidence from the Bible.
01 May 15
Originally posted by RJHindsOK genealogies determine it - I thought that was it; I have heard this before but wanted to check there was nothing else.
Genesis 5:3 gives the age of Adam when he became the father of Seth and Genesis 5:6 gives the age of Seth when he became the father of Enosh and so forth. Biblical scholars have added these ages and followed the timeline revealed in the Holy Bible until they were able to reach a point in time that is also recorded in secular history and down to the time of C ...[text shortened]... ans a 24 hour day in the creation story, then the earth is also only about 6,000 years old. 😏
Some questions then please:
- How can you be certain that there are no gaps?
- How long ago was the Genesis flood on this timescale?
- Does a population growth model regress from where we are now to Adam over a similar time period?
01 May 15
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Originally posted by divegeester- How can you be certain that there are no gaps?
OK genealogies determine it - I thought that was it; I have heard this before but wanted to check there was nothing else.
Some questions then please:
- How can you be certain that there are no gaps?
- How long ago was the Genesis flood on this timescale?
- Does a population growth model regress from where we are now to Adam over a similar time period?
No Biblical scholar has claimed there may not be minor gaps in time before we get to modern recorded history. However, it seems very clear there is no gaps of millions of years. See the thread on The Gap Theory.
- How long ago was the Genesis flood on this timescale?
I believe the Genesis flood is estimated to be about 4400 years ago give or take about 100 years.
- Does a population growth model regress from where we are now to Adam over a similar time period?
I believe it goes back to the worldwide flood and Noah's family.
01 May 15
Originally posted by RJHindsIs the 6000 years idea a doctrine for you? I.e. a deal-breaker where one must accept it or not be a Christian? (I'll avoid the 'H' word so we can keep on track)
- How can you be certain that there are no gaps?
[b]No Biblical scholar has claimed there may not be minor gaps in time before we get to modern recorded history. However, it seems very clear there is no gaps of millions of years. See the thread on The Gap Theory.
- How long ago was the Genesis flood on this timescale?
I believe the Genesis f ...[text shortened]... a similar time period?
[b] I believe it goes back to the worldwide flood and Noah's family.[/b]
01 May 15
Originally posted by divegeesterChrist asked, "if you don't believe Moses then how can you believe Me." (John 5:47) So how can one be a Christian without believing both Moses and Christ?
Is the 6000 years idea a doctrine for you? I.e. a deal-breaker where one must accept it or not be a Christian? (I'll avoid the 'H' word so we can keep on track)
01 May 15
Originally posted by divegeesterPrecisely.
Did Christ (or Moses) say that the Earth was only 6000 years old then...?
I believe Christ. I believe Moses.
What I don't believe is RJH's [i]interpretation]/i] of what they said.
James Ussher is most famous for calculating the age of the earth using the same methods RJH touts. I believe he came up with 4004 BC as the year of Creation. Interestingly, the Jews have a similar belief, as noted by their calendar which I believe counts from the first day of Creation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Ussher
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_calendar
01 May 15
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Originally posted by SuzianneAs sonhouse has pointed out, I can't think for myself and I am also a poor typist and may have a defective keyboard. So I only type short statements or else it will be the following day before i can complete it and correct all the errors. Therefore, I resort to cut and paste or Youtube videos for long explanations.
Can't you just spell it out in your own words?
It IS your belief, right? Then you should be able to lay it out as you believe it.
01 May 15
Originally posted by divegeesterYes, I believe the YEC worldview is the correct one and the one that both Moses and Christ also believed and put forth in the Holy Bible. That is why I mentioned them. 😏
Not sure why you mentioned then then. I asked:
[b]Is the 6000 years idea a doctrine for you? I.e. a deal-breaker where one must accept it or not be a Christian?[/b]
HalleluYah !!! Praise the LORD! Holy! Holy! Holy!