Originally posted by ahosyney
You said that If I read the bible or the four Gospels I will find it is all talking about the Chrsit, Salvation and that Jesus died on the cross for us. I want you to direct me where could I find that in the bible and convence me of you point. That is the purpose of my thread.
I think we can both agree that without sin we must then have salvation, no?
John 1:29 "The next day John Sees Jesus coming to him, and says, Behold the Lamb of God which takes away the sin of the world."
Christ was referred to as the Lamb of God for a reason. Lambs were sacrificial animals used in Judism for blood sacrifice for sin.
Also, Christ is the ONLY begotten Son of God and the only way to everlasting life.
John 3:16 "for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son that whosoever believes in him should not perish but have ever lasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through him might be saved. He that believes on him is not condemned; but he that believes not is condemned already, becasue he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil."
Can any mere mortal man say that if men believe on him that he will be saved or that, that mortal man will ressurect him on the last day?
John 6:40 "And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which sees the Son, and believes on him, may have everlasting life and I will raise him up at the last day."
Could Mohammad say the following?
John 6:47 "Verily, verily, I say to you, he that believes on me has everlasting life. I am the bread of life......I am the living bread which came down from heaven; if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever; and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.....Verily, verily I say to you, except you eat the flesh of the Son of Man, and drink his blood, you will have no life in you."
Here we see the bodily sacrifice being equated with eternal life. It is painfully obvious that Christ is not talking about the literal flesh and blood, rathar, he is talking about recieiving the sacrifice done on the cross.
Christ even prophesied that he would be raised up on the third day after being crucified on the cross.
Matthew 12:40 "For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; shall the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth."
So you say you don't believe in the trinity? How about this scripture? This is what Christ commanded his followers to do after he had arisen.
Matthew 28:19 "Go you therefore and teach all nations baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit"
Do Muslims do this?
Christ and his sacrifice for our sins was all even prophesied about in the Old Testament.
Isaiah 53 "For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of the dry ground; he has no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him. He is despised and rejected of men; a man of many sorrows, and acquainted with grief; and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not. Surely he has born our griefs, and carried our sorrows; yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities; the chastisement of our peace was upon him, and with his stripes we are healed."
05 Nov '06 19:40
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