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Originally posted by FMFThere is nothing wrong with circular logic if the reasoning is true. 😏
Is this your refutation of the suggestion that you're using circular logic?
Originally posted by karoly aczelNo, I'm suggesting that your interpretation of the absence of him doing that is incorrect.
Are you suggesting that this kid should've stood up to me and my mate a bit more and quietly yet gracefully told us that perhaps we were a bit off the right track and that we should consider the bible more seriously as a way to move forward spiritually in the right direction??
Originally posted by karoly aczelIt may make sense to you KA but it is not correct. Jesus wasn't crucified for being a nice guy and doing good stuff, he was crucified for claiming things like this:
"no one gets to Heaven except through me" ... what does that mean exactly? Surely it's not literal? I mean, does he want us to walk through him? I doubt it.
No, I think what he was trying to say is that "no one gets to Heaven except by following my example" . Now that makes sense.
Originally posted by karoly aczelare you saying that we should buy people ice cream! that sounds fair enough i guess
(by "decent" I mean his arguments were coherent, plausible and not induced by fear of hell or fear of disdain from other Christians)
Me, my muso mate (agnostic would be the closest description) and a Christian had a talk the other night.
Actually the Christian brought us a meal, and not just Maccas but an $80 steak for my mate and a $15 ice cream ...[text shortened]... cate Christianity for sure. Sadly, as we all know, this guy was the exception to the rule.
Originally posted by GoodKnight2UYou should talk to Mr Hinds, you two have a lot in common.
Look at what you are doing and all the circular reasoning you use, you don't want the truth so you base your belief in....? do you even even know?
The Bible is the inspired word of God because it says so and I have no reason to argue with it, I believed in God before I was even old enough to know what a Bible was. So not to believe in absolutely ever ...[text shortened]... with Christianity? pick up a Bible for yourself and read it and help yourself to understand.
Originally posted by karoly aczelThen why do you call it a belief system?
What rubbish.
My belief system is based on what I perceive with my senses.
Originally posted by GoodKnight2UI come here as a non Christian and try to give examples of how I think Christians should act . In short, I try to be positive and this is what I get.
Do you remember how you started this thread or are you really that narrow minded?
Read what you write before you hit the send button in future and stop waffling on, because every time you write something you contradict yourself.
[I]As I left, I wondered why more Christians couldn't be like this fine young man. I mean if he was what Christians were g ...[text shortened]... you.
[b]Matthew 24:35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.[/b]
Originally posted by SuzianneI call it that so that the forum may understand me, derr.
Then why do you call it a belief system?
Beliefs are what you believe, not what you can prove to be so.
Beliefs are based on faith, not proof. Otherwise, they cease to be beliefs and become facts.
Originally posted by RJHindsWell it just seemed like 3 guys chatting and enjoying themselves regardless of religion or age.
He was definitely a young Christain and perhaps age and maturity did have spmething to do with it. He is giving respect to his elders regardless of their false beliefs. I, on the other hand, would have pointed out what Jesus said and hoped that you would give the words of Jesus respect even though you might not give me the respect I deserve not only becaus ...[text shortened]... is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it."
(Matthew 7:13-14 NKJV)[/b]
Originally posted by divegeesterand if I had've said "it is" then you would said I was assuming, hence I said "seems", in which case I got this response.
"seems"
You spent a whole evening (I surmise) with this person but you don't know what he believes?