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[I don't think the ancients who told the opening Genesis story thought that it mattered whether "six days" was metaphorical or literal. They told stories to explain the cosmos they existed in, and to mold some kind of meaning around that.[/b]I agree with you.
Christ said "My kingdom is not of this world." You mentioned that you also studied eastern thought so you would see that this remark mirrors the belief that the immediately apprehended determinate things are transitory. As Paul said "The things which are seen are temporal, but things that are not seen are eternal." The temporal world was not the domain of the bible or other beliefs. (Except of course the belief of science.) Arguing how the world was created or how long it took is chasing shadows. The ancients knew this, perhaps better than we do today.
Originally posted by EcstremeVenomAh, now you think that's true.
but there is evidence of God's existance, not the most concrete, but there is in the predictions of the end times, the pieces come together.
I don't.
The pieces come together? What pieces? How are they coming together?
Sounds a bit like the predictions of Nostradamus - any hack can make his predictions fit anything.
End times?
Yeah right - people have been saying that every time a new Millenium comes around.
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Originally posted by amanniontrue, but i have homework to do and its 1:00 am and it will take me a long time to try to put it all together. long time as in maybe a full weekend.
Ah, now you think that's true.
I don't.
The pieces come together? What pieces? How are they coming together?
Sounds a bit like the predictions of Nostradamus - any hack can make his predictions fit anything.
End times?
Yeah right - people have been saying that every time a new Millenium comes around.
Originally posted by EcstremeVenomdo you know that movie called Tuesdays with Morrie? the old guy morie who is dying, says "you must know how to die before you can know how to live", what if that applies to the universe, you must know how it ends to know how it began, i think the "proof" of Christianity, if any is in the End Times.
true, but i have homework to do and its 1:00 am and it will take me a long time to try to put it all together. long time as in maybe a full weekend.
Originally posted by EcstremeVenomIt sounds to me like you don't have any proof. Its like the Christians famous claim that we will all know that they were right after we die. Its of no value to us know and therefore does not constitute a proof.
do you know that movie called Tuesdays with Morrie? the old guy morie who is dying, says "you must know how to die before you can know how to live", what if that applies to the universe, you must know how it ends to know how it began, i think the "proof" of Christianity, if any is in the End Times.
Most of the interpretations I have heard of the end times as prophesied in the Bible, do not fit todays situation at all. Those I have met who thought it did, had an extremely self centered and warped view of the world, e.g. they think a war between their country and another is equivalent to a world war, or that violence as reported on the news is equivalent to the actual worldwide levels of violence etc.
And what happened to the whole "like a thief in the night" bit where the Bible effectively says that you can not possibly predict the end times. If Paul and most of the people in the new testament were wrong about it what makes you think that you know better?
Originally posted by EcstremeVenomI'm not sure whether you're for real or not.
do you know that movie called Tuesdays with Morrie? the old guy morie who is dying, says "you must know how to die before you can know how to live", what if that applies to the universe, you must know how it ends to know how it began, i think the "proof" of Christianity, if any is in the End Times.
If you are I'm a bit freaked out that there are actually people who believe all that crap.
If not, you've done a good impersonation.
Originally posted by EcstremeVenomIf you intend to define evidence as something that provides proof I'd very much like to see it.
but there is evidence of God's existance, not the most concrete, but there is in the predictions of the end times, the pieces come together.
By the way, have you even read the bible? If so, I suggest you take a refresher class or at least reread the important bits like the New Testament and Revelations. Your ignorance of something you profess to believe in is impressive.
Originally posted by amannionit was the old man's philosophy on life, why cant the same philosophy be used on Christianity?
I'm not sure whether you're for real or not.
If you are I'm a bit freaked out that there are actually people who believe all that crap.
If not, you've done a good impersonation.