@hakima saidAlong this line of thinking, is a person amoral or immoral for not being of the christian faith?
I agree, it’s a worthy exploration.
Is it possible for a moral person to fall short of good deeds? If one considers the belief of many in the Christian community, the answer is, “yes”, hence the need for a savior figure such as Jesus... this may be an oversimplification...apologies in advance if it is.
On the other hand, is it possible for an immoral or amoral person to ...[text shortened]... on’t know.
One thing that I do know, the opening post mentioned nothing of either God or Jesus...
I dated the christian girl and she tried to convince me that I wasn't moral, because I didn't follow christianity like she did.
I say morality is separate from religion.
@zach-thomas saidHope you have a sense of humour. You going to need it. 😀
16 kids, but all adopted
No condom because the vasectomy keeps me from getting my wife pregnant
And redneck...well sure I guess. I do own firearms, and drive a diesel pickup.
@rajk999 saidLet me take my little girl panties and put on my big girl panties, then get this party started
Hope you have a sense of humour. You going to need it. 😀
@zach-thomas saidThats the spirit . lol 😀
Let me take my little girl panties and put on my big girl panties, then get this party started
@zach-thomas saidActually I think you are very wrong. Morality is just an all encompassing term for the ability to judge between good and evil, and that is the whole story of the bible, which is the battle between God and Christ et al, who represents good, and Satan who represents sin and evil.
Homosexuality isn't really mentioned in the bible, yet that seems to be quite a large point of discussion. Morality may not be brought up in the bible, but in my experience, the more extreme bible thumpers have clung to it as a means of saying non bible thumpers don't have morals.
Winners of this battle get eternal life while losers get damnation.
@zach-thomas saidFrom the opening post “...does much else matter in terms of who a person is relative to others apart from "deeds"?”
Along this line of thinking, is a person amoral or immoral for not being of the christian faith?
I dated the christian girl and she tried to convince me that I wasn't moral, because I didn't follow christianity like she did.
I say morality is separate from religion.
It’s interesting that the OP does not mention either morality or religion, and yet, three pages in, and both religion (a particular one, in fact..ie; Christianity) and morality (which I admit to raising here) are both addressed...
In considering the OP, I am becoming self-reflective and asking myself, “Who am I, if not what I do...and especially what others see me do?” Can I consider passion, desire, hopes, thoughts, choices that I make and have made as well as those I have rejected part of what makes the whole of me, separate from my actions? Is it possible to include where and who I com from as well...my home, my family, my country, this planet, ancestry, traditions, culture, values, and, yes, religion as part of the entirety of me?
I’m not sure I’m ready to provide a definitive answer...yet, the question provokes something (spirit or soul perhaps) that intuitively seems to matter when I consider who I am...and it feels that it does matter.
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@zach-thomas saidThis, to me, is the worst part of being Christian. You always get the holier-than-thou types claiming that you're going to burn in hell for something they think you did, just because you aren't the exact same kind of Christian they claim to be. Always judging. Then you find out they cheated on their taxes or something. Always with the huge stack of hypocrisy up to the sky.
Along this line of thinking, is a person amoral or immoral for not being of the christian faith?
I dated the christian girl and she tried to convince me that I wasn't moral, because I didn't follow christianity like she did.
I say morality is separate from religion.
Immorality is a character flaw, I say, because there are plenty of moral people around, religious and not religious.