@sonship saidActually, the law of gravity won't pull you down, but rather brings the ground up to meet you.
@divegeester
Odd.
I believe that if I jump out of the window of a ten story building the law of gravity will pull me down and I will smash on the ground below.
If someone else takes the jump, they too will crash. But it will not be because they did or did not agree with me.
A limited analogy not meant to be perfect is every regard.
The law of gravity is the issue and not the opinion of a certain believer in it.
Actually, the law of gravity won't pull you down, but rather brings the ground up to meet you.
As I wrote "pull me down" I was thinking someone would object.
The effect, whatever it may be, has nothing to do with their attitude towards me.
If I don't jump and someone else does, gravity will do its work.
I can't say " They fell because they disagreed with my belief " as the sole cause of their falling.
The caricature of condemnation from God is for disagreeing with one one who has received salvation, is a misdirected resentment. It is actually an appeal to emotions. Its not a sober minded understanding of the need for Justification and Redemption from God.
@sonship saidIs this an honest attempt to reply to what divegeester put to you? This thing about "the law of gravity"?
@divegeester
Odd.
I believe that if I jump out of the window of a ten story building the law of gravity will pull me down and I will smash on the ground below.
If someone else takes the jump, they too will crash. But it will not be because they did or did not agree with me.
A limited analogy not meant to be perfect is every regard.
The law of gravity is the issue and not the opinion of a certain believer in it.
That question, which you have been dodging for weeks, is, of course a bit of an existential threat to your little "ministry" here, and that's exactly why you have been deflecting and dodging it these last few weeks.