04 May '15 10:25>1 edit
Originally posted by whodeyNo, the video [as well as the atheists on this forum] very explicitly don't believe any gods from any religion exist.
I like how they attempt to portray this as an attack on belief of "gods" and then single out Christianity as the prime target.
We all know this is the target. It's not Islam, its not Hinduism, etc..
Originally posted by whodeyThis is not portrayed as an attack on belief of gods (although, as googlefudge also notes, your paranoia will still make you feel you're under attack), but rather an explanation as to what atheism is and why it is the rational, default position.
I like how they attempt to portray this as an attack on belief of "gods" and then single out Christianity as the prime target.
We all know this is the target. It's not Islam, its not Hinduism, etc.
I also take issue with the notion that if God is perfect there is no need for worship. Why exactly is that? It seems to me that those we deem the most "pe ...[text shortened]... at is best for us, more so than we do.
Your little film is just one strawman after another.
Originally posted by Great King Ratwow its alike a clone zone! Ya'll reading from the same cook book! God is dead! All hail the God of science! 😵
This is not portrayed as an attack on belief of gods (although, as googlefudge also notes, your paranoia will still make you feel you're under attack), but rather an explanation as to what atheism is and why it is the rational, default position.
I especially liked how he attempted to explain that atheism is a lack of belief in gods, rather than be ...[text shortened]... y nothing.
EDIT. Actually, I just like everything about this video. The ending too was great.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieOh! for the love of non-existent entities...
Atheism is a purely intellectual stance and as a consequence can offer nothing for its adherent. It offers no comfort, no hope, no guidance and has limited its perspective to non intelligent agencies. This is neither rational, nor reasonable, nor logical and I reject the atheists claims to such. To be truly open minded, rational, reasonable and log ...[text shortened]... e must be prepared to assume nothing and make room for possibilities beyond the merely physical.
Originally posted by Great King RatSigh no its you that is not getting it, the term God is dead did not and does not mean that God is literally dead. It means that there is no longer any need for God because rationality has allegedly prevailed.
Atheists can not by definition believe that God is dead, Robbie. Watch the video again, please. You are still not getting it.
Originally posted by googlefudgeIts an intellectual stance and is entirely a belief system, you cannot escape the fact no matter how you rile. I have already posted copious heaps of text demonstrating why its a belief system. You need not acquiesce, but it is what it is.
Oh! for the love of non-existent entities...
Atheism is [and everyone say this together] [b]THE LACK OF BELIEF IN GODS.
That is it. There is nothing else.
You can believe, or lack belief, or disbelieve ANYTHING else, and you are still an atheist if you
just lack a belief in the existence of god/s.
For most religious people [as far as I ...[text shortened]... any times for you ignorance on this topic to be anything other than
intentional and malicious.[/b]
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou are correct.
Atheism is a purely intellectual stance and as a consequence can offer nothing for its adherent. It offers no comfort, no hope, no guidance and has limited its perspective to non intelligent agencies. This is neither rational, nor reasonable, nor logical and I reject the atheists claims to such. To be truly open minded, rational, reasonable and log ...[text shortened]... e must be prepared to assume nothing and make room for possibilities beyond the merely physical.
Originally posted by Great King RatIts not a default position, there is no such thing as a default position, you simply made that up. If anything the default position is to assume absolutely nothing.
You are correct.
..............
..............
..............
..............
Let that sink in for a moment. It happens so rarely.
..............
..............
..............
..............
It indeed offers no comfort, no hope and no guidance. It is no more than an absence of belief in gods. Even if that thought makes one deeply depressed, ...[text shortened]... atheist does that bring with it the question "does this make me (un)happy?" It is not relevant.