Originally posted by robbie carrobieThe lack of proof never stops you from rattling on.
You have proof of course that we translate it exclusively as obeisance with reference to Jesus and worship every where else? No then what are you talking about?
As an aside, is Jesus actually the Archangel Micheal and is that biblically supported? - 'No then what are you talking about?'
Originally posted by robbie carrobieWell, it has been my stance from my first posts, that the Jesus/God issue causes me a lot of confusion. I am still confused, but still drawn to these discussions. The Trinity is not a 'cut and dry' SOLVED issue to me. Sonship pointed out in a previous thread himself that 1+1+1=1 is an extremely difficult proposition for a human to accept. And, in case anyone cares to know......I grew up believing in God....and Jesus as His son....but, growing up I did not equate them both as God. I do not label myself as anything at the moment.....I am still gathering information.
Yes I shall be quite clear, Sonship in his idolatry believes that Jesus Christ is God Almighty, I profess that he is a created entity, the son of God.
the crux of the matter is not only this, it is the use of corrupt and inaccurate translation (continually used by sonship in full knowledge of the fact) that often leads to confusion. Many times ...[text shortened]... nd the term suddenly becomes an act of worship, so far we have no evidence just some trash talk.
Originally posted by chaney3Have you considered atheism?
Well, it has been my stance from my first posts, that the Jesus/God issue causes me a lot of confusion. I am still confused, but still drawn to these discussions. The Trinity is not a 'cut and dry' SOLVED issue to me. Sonship pointed out in a previous thread himself that 1+1+1=1 is an extremely difficult proposition for a human to accept. And, in case an ...[text shortened]... h as God. I do not label myself as anything at the moment.....I am still gathering information.
We do a very good buffet.
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Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeSo you have NO PROOF and you were caught making claims that you cannot substantiate. How embarrassing for you, but I dislike seeing a man with his back against the wall, simply let it serve as a lesson to you my Ghostly fellow . . . . . . .whispers (make sure you have proof for your assertions)
The lack of proof never stops you from rattling on.
As an aside, is Jesus actually the Archangel Micheal and is that biblically supported? - 'No then what are you talking about?'
As for the case of Christ and the evidence for his being the Archangel Michael its for another thread, we still have fish to fry here.
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Originally posted by chaney3The trinity relies for its efficacy on the interpretation of certain texts and the negating or ignoring of certain others. Its quite honestly an extra Biblical and pagan doctrine that was formed from about the forth century to the eighth under the influence of the Greeks. Paul never mentions it and neither does Christ or any of the apostles.
Well, it has been my stance from my first posts, that the Jesus/God issue causes me a lot of confusion. I am still confused, but still drawn to these discussions. The Trinity is not a 'cut and dry' SOLVED issue to me. Sonship pointed out in a previous thread himself that 1+1+1=1 is an extremely difficult proposition for a human to accept. And, in case an ...[text shortened]... h as God. I do not label myself as anything at the moment.....I am still gathering information.
Your approach is wise, to stay objective at all times and to put to the test all kinds of beliefs to see whether they can be substantiated by scripture, if not reject them. I truly wish you well.
-Removed-Whether you want to call it Trinity or Godhead doesn't matter. I fully understand the issue here.......some believe Jesus to be God Himself......and some do NOT. How one makes this decision will entirely influence how he interprets Biblical scripture. Sonship and Robbie both believe in God......but, each has a different interpretation about scripture when it involves Jesus Christ.
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Originally posted by sonshipwow you really are a wicked person, you're asking him to dispense with his intellect and powers of discernment and to throw his tambourine in time with you are your shamanistic ways! what will you have him do roll around on the church floor. I have confidence that he will see through your emotionalism and remain logical, rational and objective. He seems wise enough to gain information, information that you would have him dispense with by your weirdoism.
Chaney3, when it comes to the experience of God you must subjectively enter into that and subjectively receive and love Him.
Don't trust anyone purporting to teach you about God advising you to remain objective.
[b]"Taste and see that the Lord is good." (Psalm 34:8) [/b]