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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
what prophecy did Jonah make? that Ninevah would be destroyed, was it destroyed?
oh dear, wheels have fallen from your wagon, again!


your a disgrace just because you suck and we are awesome.
Ninevah was destroyed in 612 BC.

Go learn some history and stop reading the Watchtower publications.
Only retards read that nonsense.

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Originally posted by Rajk999
Ninevah was destroyed in 612 BC.

Go learn some history and stop reading the Watchtower publications.
Only retards read that nonsense.
Only retards read that nonsense

you seem to enjoy them, just saying, and actually God spared Ninevah, because they
repented, go read the scriptures, God knows you could do with every scrap you can
get. I am going to the Kingdom Hall now, where i shall be with my brothers and
sisters, have a nice day Mr Lonely hearts club

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Only retards read that nonsense

you seem to enjoy them, just saying, and actually God spared Ninevah, because they
repented, go read the scriptures, God knows you could do with every scrap you can
get. I am going to the Kingdom Hall now, where i shall be with my brothers and
sisters, have a nice day Mr Lonely hearts club
I dont believe what Im hearing. You really dont know your Bible or history.

God spared Ninevah becuase they repented temporarily in the time of Jonah. They went back to their evil ways and God sent Nahum another prophet [a real one, not like the JWs .. 😀], who warned them again. They repented temporarily again but went back again to their evil ways and then God had enough of that. They were destroyed by the Babylonian army in 612 BC.

Boy o boy, you are truly a fake of a Christian. Yep... go back to your fake church and fraternize with your fake brothers and sisters.

Remember Christ condemns your false prophesies. Be warned !

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
whatever, we've killed not a single person in two world wars while the nominal
Christians were blowing each other to bits, I think your record of bloody warfare
speaks for itself indicating that you are weeds and counterfeit. BTW we have not
become defensive, we readily admit to having made mistakes, we have never claimed
to be infallible an ...[text shortened]... states the
Christ, how is killing and bombing one another a demonstration of love? Do tell?
So your saying you know ever single JW who ever lived and that none ever committed any kind of atrocity or crime? Any one who ever died because they did not receive a blood transfusion because of whacked JW doctrine is a criminal and friend of the devil how bout that ?



Manny

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Originally posted by menace71
So your saying you know ever single JW who ever lived and that none ever committed any kind of atrocity or crime? Any one who ever died because they did not receive a blood transfusion because of whacked JW doctrine is a criminal and friend of the devil how bout that ?



Manny
Another has died over here because of their refusal to get a blood transfusion.
It has resparked the debate over whether they should be able to refuse.
Some have said that if they are an adult then they should be able to do what they want with their bodies(with which I generally agree) but that kids should be saved, if possible, by a blood transfusion.

It is incredible that Robbie seems to want to defend every JW just by the virtue of them being a JW and nothing else. I have read some incredible posts here which often leave me flabergasted.
In my experience you cant tell much about someone by which church they attend.
I would need more than that to go and defend someone.
I think Robbie and Galv need to sort out the difference between a personal attack and an attack on their organization. I often see them taking attacks on their organization as personal attacks on them.


(Ok, Robbie , do you have a reasonable refutation for this or are you going to start telling me how silly I am (or whatever irrelevant put downs you come up with), ignore this post or actually admit for once that the JWs dont have everything right?)

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Jehovah's_Witnesses




No dissenters or else you get dis-fellow shipped
Also seems that the JW's like to harbor child abusers within their ranks.
Galvo and RC are clones of their cult that's why they are lock in step can't dare think for themselves.


Manny

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Originally posted by karoly aczel
Another has died over here because of their refusal to get a blood transfusion.
It has resparked the debate over whether they should be able to refuse.
Some have said that if they are an adult then they should be able to do what they want with their bodies(with which I generally agree) but that kids should be saved, if possible, by a blood transfusio ...[text shortened]... up with), ignore this post or actually admit for once that the JWs dont have everything right?)
we claim the right of self determination, no one should be told what to do with their
own body. Did i say we have still killed n one in two world wars unlike the nominal
Christians who are blood-guilty for the lives of millions, just saying, You will know you
are my disciples if you have love among yourselves, stated the Christ.

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Originally posted by menace71
So your saying you know ever single JW who ever lived and that none ever committed any kind of atrocity or crime? Any one who ever died because they did not receive a blood transfusion because of whacked JW doctrine is a criminal and friend of the devil how bout that ?



Manny
we claim the right of self determination and you kill each other by the tens of million
in the two most bloodiest conflicts in the entire history if humanity, I dont think we
shall be taking lectures from you about the sanctity of life, that's for sure

(John 13:34-35) . . .I am giving you a new commandment, that you love one
another; just as I have loved you, that you also love one another.  By this all will
know that you are my disciples, if you have love among yourselves.”


that rules out every denomination that has been involved in bloody acts of warfare
against fellow Christians. No excuses.

how is killing each other by the millions a demonstration of love Manny, you have
not stated, why not? are you not interested in truth? are you not interested in
discerning the words of Jesus Christ and what they mean? are we not able to use
our discernment and realise who Christ's true disciples are, after all, he did mention
how we would know, didn't he.

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Originally posted by menace71
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Jehovah's_Witnesses




No dissenters or else you get dis-fellow shipped
Also seems that the JW's like to harbor child abusers within their ranks.
Galvo and RC are clones of their cult that's why they are lock in step can't dare think for themselves.


Manny
You know Manny you have become a master of spouting out stupid statements. I really used to respect you but the comments your making is making that respect fade fast.

"And oh yeah we have at least 30 child abusers in my Hall alone. We're so proud of them. But please don't call the police as were trying to hide them all!!!!!"

Geeeez Manny are you really that wicked to make a statement like that? You should be ashamed.....

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
we claim the right of self determination, no one should be told what to do with their
own body. Did i say we have still killed n one in two world wars unlike the nominal
Christians who are blood-guilty for the lives of millions, just saying, You will know you
are my disciples if you have love among yourselves, stated the Christ.
we claim the right of self determination, no one should be told what to do with their
own body


I didn't know you supported euthanasia?

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Originally posted by Proper Knob
[b]we claim the right of self determination, no one should be told what to do with their
own body


I didn't know you supported euthanasia?[/b]
interesting angle, with the one major exception, life is sacrosanct to God and not for
the taking by any human, not in war, not in euthanasia.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
interesting angle, with the one major exception, life is sacrosanct to God and not for
the taking by any human, not in war, not in euthanasia.
So you don't really believe that everyone has the right to self-determination.

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Originally posted by Proper Knob
So you don't really believe that everyone has the right to self-determination.
yes i do, but its relative.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
yes i do, but its relative.
The greatest act of self determination would be to deicide whether to end ones own life. You say that's not aloud, you don't believe in full self determination then. It's a sort of watered down version, a bit like Bell's whisky masquerading as a Lagavulin!!!

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Originally posted by Proper Knob
The greatest act of self determination would be to deicide whether to end ones own life. You say that's not aloud, you don't believe in full self determination then. It's a sort of watered down version, a bit like Bell's whisky masquerading as a Lagavulin!!!
Lol, an excellent analogy, never the less, there are certain principles which have a
bearing on the matter

1.that life is sacrosanct to God (this rules out all things like euthanasia, assisted
suicide, suicide in general, abortions, etc etc)

2. In instances which violate a Biblical principle (from our perspective the
intravenous use of blood products, either in whole, or one of its four constituent
parts) while doing everything humanly possible to preserve life, one cannot
invoke a principle when it clearly violates another equally important principle, thus
while we claim the right of self determination, we also recognise its relative nature
and the two principles thus have a bearing on each other.

I understand that to others without any religious convictions whatsoever, that to
needlessly observe suffering whether in self or another may cause needless
sorrow, once again we uphold the Biblical standards even when the human vision
seems to be more humane.