Originally posted by Rajk999Well if were these big bad false prophets you claim then you better stay away from us.
No .. Christ said we have to look out for false prophets and HE TOLD US HOW TO SPOT THEM ..HE SAID THEIR PROPHESIES WILL NOT BEAR FRUIT... So clearly we have to judge that for outselves.
Now the JWs have made hundreds of prophesies which TIME [the ultimate judge of prophesies] has proved false. So Christ told us to judge for ourselves when it comes to fa ...[text shortened]... y he can judge.
Its JWs that constantly claim that nobody is following Christ except the JWs.
Not that you'll read this or even more understand it but here ya go buddy:
Have not Jehovah’s Witnesses made errors in their teachings?
Jehovah’s Witnesses do not claim to be inspired prophets. They have made mistakes. Like the apostles of Jesus Christ, they have at times had some wrong expectations.—Luke 19:11; Acts 1:6.
The Scriptures provide time elements related to Christ’s presence, and Jehovah’s Witnesses have studied these with keen interest. (Luke 21:24; Dan. 4:10-17) Jesus also described a many-featured sign that would tie in with the fulfillment of time prophecies to identify the generation that would live to see the end of Satan’s wicked system of things. (Luke 21:7-36) Jehovah’s Witnesses have pointed to evidence in fulfillment of this sign. It is true that the Witnesses have made mistakes in their understanding of what would occur at the end of certain time periods, but they have not made the mistake of losing faith or ceasing to be watchful as to fulfillment of Jehovah’s purposes. They have continued to keep to the fore in their thinking the counsel given by Jesus: “Keep on the watch, therefore, because you do not know on what day your Lord is coming.”—Matt. 24:42.
Matters on which corrections of viewpoint have been needed have been relatively minor when compared with the vital Bible truths that they have discerned and publicized. Among these are the following: Jehovah is the only true God. Jesus Christ is not part of a Trinitarian godhead but is the only-begotten Son of God. Redemption from sin is possible only through faith in Christ’s ransom sacrifice. The holy spirit is not a person but is Jehovah’s active force, and its fruitage must be evident in the lives of true worshipers. The human soul is not immortal, as the ancient pagans claimed; it dies, and the hope for future life is in the resurrection. God’s permission of wickedness has been because of the issue of universal sovereignty. God’s Kingdom is the only hope for mankind. Since 1914 we have been living in the last days of the global wicked system of things. Only 144,000 faithful Christians will be kings and priests with Christ in heaven, whereas the rest of obedient mankind will receive eternal life on a paradise earth.
Another factor to consider regarding the teachings of Jehovah’s Witnesses is this: Have these truly uplifted people morally? Are those who adhere to these teachings outstanding in their communities because of their honesty? Is their family life beneficially influenced by applying these teachings? Jesus said that his disciples would be readily identified because of having love among themselves. (John 13:35) Is this quality outstanding among Jehovah’s Witnesses? We let the facts speak for themselves.
My finale words on this for you. Take it or leave it or yell from the mountain tops about how false we are as I don't care about your viewpoint at all...........
But somewhere in your deepest memory keep this thought in mind and that is you will see the day soon that what we've been warning ones of what will happen with regards to Jehovah and what he will do to ones who have been against his people. Be afraid my friend as I know how much you hate Jehovah's Witnesses.
Originally posted by galveston75I know longer care about your viewpoint either. This is another thread I
Well if were these big bad false prophets you claim then you better stay away from us.
Not that you'll read this or even more understand it but here ya go buddy:
Have not Jehovah’s Witnesses made errors in their teachings?
Jehovah’s Witnesses do not claim to be inspired prophets. They have made mistakes. Like the apostles of Jes ...[text shortened]... een against his people. Be afraid my friend as I know how much you hate Jehovah's Witnesses.
wll no longer read. So don't bother replying for I will not see it.
Originally posted by galveston75Are you right in your head?
Well if were these big bad false prophets you claim then you better stay away from us.
Not that you'll read this or even more understand it but here ya go buddy:
Have not Jehovah’s Witnesses made errors in their teachings?
Jehovah’s Witnesses do not claim to be inspired prophets. They have made mistakes. Like the apostles of Jes ...[text shortened]... een against his people. Be afraid my friend as I know how much you hate Jehovah's Witnesses.
How can you admit to being false prophets and still claim to be Gods chosen people?
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Originally posted by galveston75JW's have made mistakes meaning that just maybe just maybe there are more mistakes still?
Well if were these big bad false prophets you claim then you better stay away from us.
Not that you'll read this or even more understand it but here ya go buddy:
Have not Jehovah’s Witnesses made errors in their teachings?
Jehovah’s Witnesses do not claim to be inspired prophets. They have made mistakes. Like the apostles of Jes een against his people. Be afraid my friend as I know how much you hate Jehovah's Witnesses.
Manny
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou are shameless :
duh, duh and more slappety head for you,
Jehovah’s Witnesses do not claim to be inspired prophets.
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Is it true that the Society doesn’t claim to be an “inspired” prophet? Let’s examine the following statements from various Watchtower publications:
“What is here meant by the word ‘inspired’? It means that God, the Creator of heaven and earth, moved these men by his spirit or invisible empowering force, putting into their minds what they should write down as his ‘word,’ or message, for mankind.” —Good News, 1976, p. 14
“The Source of all true prophecy is Jehovah God. He transmits it by means of his holy spirit or, occasionally, by spirit-directed angelic messengers.” —Insight on the Scriptures, vol. 2, 1988, p. 691
“Consider, too, the fact that Jehovah’s organization alone, in all the earth, is directed by God’s holy spirit or active force.... That same holy spirit and angelic direction still affect the preaching activities of Christian ministers.” —The Watchtower, July 1, 1973, pp. 402, 405
“These angels are invisible to human eyes and are there to carry out the orders of the Lord. Not doubt they first hear the instruction which the Lord issues to his remnant and then these invisible messengers pass such instruction on to the remnant. The facts show that the angels of the Lord with him at his temple have been thus rendering service unto the remnant since 1919.” —Vindication III, 1932, p. 250
“There Ezekiel is definitely told that he is henceforth to serve as a prophet. He is commissioned to speak in the divine name.... He was thus, in an outstanding way, made a witness of Jehovah. Not alone were the inspired words of Ezekiel prophetic, but he himself was a prophetic figure in his action....Who is Ezekiel’s present-day counterpart, whose message and conduct correspond with that of that ancient prophet of Jehovah?… So it is with the modern-day counterpart of Ezekiel: it is, not one person’s body, but a composite body, made up of many members.... were commissioned to serve as the mouthpiece and active agent of Jehovah....Why, though, are all these facts of history brought to our attention? It is to show the fulfillment of prophecy. Jehovah has found and commissioned his modern-day ‘Ezekiel.’ ” —“The Nations Shall Know THAT I AM JEHOVAH —How?”, 1971, pp. 56, 58-59, 66
“The scroll was doubtless delivered to Ezekiel by the hand of one of the cherubs in the vision. This would indicate that Jehovah’s witnesses today make their declaration of the good news of the Kingdom under angelic direction and support. (Rev. 14:6,7; Matt. 25:31, 32) And since no word or work of Jehovah can fail, for he is God Almighty, the nations will see the fulfillment of what these witnesses say as directed from heaven. Yes, the time must come shortly that the nations will have to know that really a ‘prophet’ of Jehovah was among them.” —The Watchtower, April 1, 1972, p. 200
As can be clearly seen, although the Society declares that they “do not claim to be inspired prophets,” they claim to get their information the same way inspired prophets do (through angels and the Holy Spirit), and they claim to be on par with “inspired” prophets such as Ezekiel. Just like Ezekiel was a spokesman for God, the Society also claims to be Jehovah’s “mouthpiece,” and thus, they claim that they are speaking the very words of Jehovah. Note the following statements:
“The interpretation of prophecy, therefore, is not from man, but is from Jehovah; and Jehovah causes events to come to pass in fulfillment of the prophecy in due time.”—The Watchtower, May 1, 1938. p. 143
“He merely uses the ‘servant’ class to publish the interpretation after the Supreme Court by Christ Jesus reveals it.” —The Watchtower, July 1, 1943, p. 203
“This is not giving any credit to the magazine’s publishers, but is due to the great Author of the Bible with its truths and prophecies, and who now interprets its prophecies. He it is that makes possible the material that is published in the columns of this magazine....” —The Watchtower, April 15, 1943, p. 127
“We see no reason for changing the figures — nor could we change them if we would. They are, we believe, God’s dates, not ours. But bear in mind that the end of 1914 is not the date for the beginning, but for the end of the time of trouble.” —Zion’s Watch Tower, July 15, 1894, p. 226
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Originally posted by Rajk999shameless i may be, a slappety slaphead and a weed like Christian I am not. Yawn,
You are shameless :
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Is it true that the Society doesn’t claim to be an “inspired” prophet? Let’s examine the following statements from various Watchtower publications:
“What is here meant by the word ‘inspired’? It means that God, the Creator of heaven and earth, moved these men by his spirit or invisibl ...[text shortened]... ************************************************
http://4jehovah.org/jehovahs-witness-facts.php
your such a bore, endless drivel and third party references from more haters, have
you ever had an original thought in your life? Hang in there maybe one will come
along soon.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieWe already established that Christ condemns the WatchTower Organisation for its constant false prophesies and for claiming to be sent by God and guided by God.
shameless i may be, a slappety slaphead and a weed like Christian I am not. Yawn,
your such a bore, endless drivel and third party references from more haters, have
you ever had an original thought in your life? Hang in there maybe one will come
along soon.
Christ also condemns people like you who think they are so righteous, and despise others ... .
Luke 18:9-14 And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others: Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.
The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
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-Removed-well then join the girl guides! i am sure they'll be happy to have you, you could earn
your knitting badge, help old ladies across the street bade and how to hold a jumble
sale in the local church badge.
to reiterate, but i doubt it will do you zoobs any good, we have originated no prophesy,
we have merely sought to understand prophesy already written. Next time i see you
packing my bags at the checkout ill be sure to remind you of this fact and recommend
to the guide leaders that you receive your slavering like Sylvester the bad ol putty cat
badge. Luv in it!
Originally posted by Rajk999i thought i saw a putty cat, i did, i did see a putty cat, that bad ol slavering putty cat!
We already established that Christ condemns the WatchTower Organisation for its constant false prophesies and for claiming to be sent by God and guided by God.
Christ also condemns people like you who think they are so righteous, and despise others ... .
Luke 18:9-14 And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were ...[text shortened]... y one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.